John Mann Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Greetings, I discovered this forum whilst visiting the B&B sites and have browsed all the previous posts covering CS17 & 20's. I am familiar with the attributes of the twin sprit boomed marconi sail rig of the core sound series (I sail a Micro with a similar rig). I have appreciated the depth of knowledge and great pics submitted by forum members and have learnt a lot. I am looking for another design to build. I want something with the same sailing characteristics as the Micro, but more weatherly and faster. I have been looking for a design with a cabin, but most of my sailing is singlehanded daysailing so the core sound greatly interests me. I have seen a few Australians in the members' area so I guess that there are a few boats sailing here. I saw one on Sydney Harbour once and was impressed. I would love to see either a CS17 or CS20 up close and discuss with the owner their experience. Can anyone oblige? I live in Sydney Australia, Regards and Thanks in Advance, John [/code] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Batchelor Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Hi John, I'm in Melbourne, but I'm happy to talk to a Sydneysider about boats :wink: There is a member of this group in Sydney (Dave Newell) but I haven't seen any posts from him recently. Antony Harvey is near Canberra, and is building a Princess 22. Rob Blackburn is from Queensland, and has a cs20. He's given this list lots of inspiration with the photos he's taken on his various trips. See http://homepage.mac.com/blackburns/Expeditions/Menu160.html for details. We haven't heard from him for a while either... Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffM Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 John, is yours a Bolger Micro? Speak of the devil! I brought up that design (though not by name) on the "hull speed and waterline length" thread in the Design forum. How does she sail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mann Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Peter, Thanks for the offer and leads re boats. I will contact you off line with some questions. Jeff, Yes she is a Bolger Micro. I sail regularly on Sydney harbour, much to the amusement of the racing franernity. I don't think they understand the word "relaxed" when it is associated with sailing. The Bolger Micro with its cat-yawl rig has similar (or the same) characteristics as the Core Sound. The rig is easily balanced to windward and can be sailed hands off on a beat to windward in 10-15 knots. She has 400lbs of lead in a low aspect keel which makes her self righting (I've been knocked over with water coming in the scuppers at the beam). She isn't fast and windward ability is hampered in a chop and low wind by a pronounced rocker on a flat bottom. I have her on a mooring and can be off sailing on the harbour in 20 mins. All boats are a compromise to a set of requirements. I am exploring the Core Sound because a want a more weatherly and faster sailboat. I wont waffle on too much about her as this is a B&B forum, Thanks for the info and questions, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsearle Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 B19 Belhaven, small cabin, good rig, shallow draught - what more could you want! Lawrie Searle Newcastle Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mann Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Lawrie, The Belhaven looks to be a well thought out boat and would be a challenge to build. However I'm trying to restrict myself to a length of around 16'. The problem is that there is always another interesting design about 2' longer that has better functionality, Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Burritt Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Graham also has plans for a CS 15. I know at least one has been built. He has a nice description of it w/ pics on his web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Newell Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 gday john - im down on the far south coast (cobargo) and have a cs17 - and very happy with it! at the moment shes in "dry dock" while im fixing a few problems from the previous owner/builder (he didnt stick to the plans!). should have it back in the water by the summer (and would love to sail her on the harbour sometime) - or come down and have a look at a cs17 with the insides removed! david.newell@cma.nsw.gov.au for correspondance cheers dn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Blackburn Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Despite rumours... I am still here occasionally. Have been into the rowing boat project. Why don't you buy a ticket to Ballina on Virgin and come and go for a sail on Allecat? More than happy to do that. Call me on ... 0434 004 895 Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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