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1 hour ago, Andy B said:

I saw that for sale back then.  Everyone was drooling over the level of finish.  Good luck!

The finish really is spectacular! The original builder did a phenomenal job.

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I would like everyones opinion on why I am having a hard time selling my boat? Is something missing from my ad? I have seen boats in far worse condition selling within $1000 of my current asking price. Do I have it listed in the wrong places?

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A lot of people think they can build their own boat. Have it exactly what they want and do it for less cost than you are asking.

You should tell any prospective buyer that 100 hours of their time = 100 x $70.00 = $7,000 and they might see your boat is a bargain. They will say I work for less than $70/hour and you ask, can you build this in less than 100 hours?

I did not notice your boat in the Classifieds 

 

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My two cents.

 

It's still cold up north.  It's hard to think about sailing yet.

 

Most importantly, FB marketplace is local.  You're limiting your market to those within a few hundred miles, at best.  Consider Sailing Texas (not just for TX), classifies on this sight, wooden boat magazine, small craft advisor, small boats nation, and anything else you can find.

 

Take out the comment about the dings--of course it has dings, it's an 8 year old boat.  Don't undersell it.

 

And what Tim said is true. Sadly these boats don't sell for what they should.

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I think there's a limited number of people who want a specific type of boat, especially wood sailboats. It can take years to find the right buyer for something out of the mainstream. Sometimes you have to decide if you have the option of hanging onto something until you find the right buyer, or if you have to sell within a specific timeframe. I used to wait, but these days, once I decide to sell something, I sell it for whatever the market will bear.

 

Another issue is that buyers sometimes confuse price and value, and just want the lowest possible price. "I saw one once on xxx.com and it was only $2, so yours can't be worth more than that." I try not to deal with those sorts.

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13 hours ago, Captain Tim said:

Andy B said "It's still cold up north.  It's hard to think about sailing yet."

In New Hampshire Frosty Fleet 9 (can be found on Facebook) sails all winter on Sunday. Show up with a dry suit and any one of us will let you jump in their boat for one of the races.

I forget your (salt) water doesn't freeze!

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11 hours ago, messingdd97 said:

I think there's a limited number of people who want a specific type of boat, especially wood sailboats. It can take years to find the right buyer for something out of the mainstream. Sometimes you have to decide if you have the option of hanging onto something until you find the right buyer, or if you have to sell within a specific timeframe. I used to wait, but these days, once I decide to sell something, I sell it for whatever the market will bear.

 

Another issue is that buyers sometimes confuse price and value, and just want the lowest possible price. "I saw one once on xxx.com and it was only $2, so yours can't be worth more than that." I try not to deal with those sorts.

Very true. Especially for "homemade sailboats" you're going up against the used small sailboat market which it flooded with old plastic boats that have nearly infinite lifespan and just keep getting recycled. I'm pretty sure every single Hobie 16 that is still sailing has changed hands at least 2 or 3 times for example. So you need not only someone looking for a used sailboat but someone looking specifically for a Core Sound 17. 

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Hello Hawk 232,

 

So I have a thread seeking feedback on CS 15vs17 and am considering a 17. A few pointed out that there are a few beautiful examples for sale - like yours. I am sharing why, for me, this is less attractive.

  • Big reason for me is I want to enjoy the build as much as sailing.
  • My Shellback is my 3rd boat. Prior to were commercial fiberglass. I sold each FG boat for what I paid after years of ownership. Even with builders out of business buyers can read reviews and look for certain known flaws (ex "Catalina smile"). With private builders this is more of a crapshoot. I was considering a different wooden boat, one was available local and buried deep in his blog I saw mentioned of "exterior ply vs marine ply". Not the case w/ yours - just suggesting that craftmanship usually exceeds a commercial build with these but occasionally not so much. I can read about the sailing merits of a CS17 and apply that to all. Builder merits are individual. Again, not your boat.
  • Alan was right about spreading the net wide. You can still post in Craigslist in any city you wish. I would blanket my region. Both my buyers for the FG boats were out of state. One even sent a surveyor for a 14' West Wight Potter to my garage. Water tribe and wooden boats sites are also a great idea because the design & designer is well known and well respected. And I drove ten hours for my Shellback from a Craigslist add.
  • With Craigslist you are dealing more with general public who cringe when they hear "wooden boat." If you have it coated with epoxy or sheathed in FG you may wish to use "composite" and mention "low maintenance." Be prepared to say that wood inside fiberglass is pretty common. Better yet, link to an article or two so people can self-educate. Core Sound should ring like Cor-Vette but people outside of our circle don't know.
  • You do a good job with showing the boat afloat. It sends a vibe that the boat is well loved and not neglected. My fav boat ad of the month is for an Islander 36. They show a sunset shot with grill in foreground. I really wanted to be right there sipping a cold one flipping a burger after a day w/ friends and family. Of course other photos show the merits of the boat
  • I look for and need stats. Will it fit in my garage. Can I tow it - and don't use the salty term "displacement" - use trailer weight! Can I bring the whole family plus the dog. The lockers on a CS 17 are cavernous! This is a selling point for me.
  • The Core Sounds attract me because of speed and relative ease of sailing. Think about what set the boat aside for you. Be sure to mention it.
  • There are more than a few events coming up this summer where you may be able to make a weekend of it and slap on a fore sale sign.

I shared that I sold my FG boats for what I paid. I doubt that will happen with the Shellback. She is still sharp, I can freshen her up a bit with paint. I paid the original owner/builder his asking price and never looked back. When I sail out the channel the fishermen stop what they are doing and watch, giving a shy wave. They do not do that for the Hunter, Catalina & O'Days

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Hawk, I don’t know exactly how to use this to market your boat, but what attracted me to the Core Sound was the rig. Just move the tiller to tack or jibe. And it’s quick to launch and recover with its freestanding masts. No gin poles and stays and extra hands and an hour lost.  And in a light breeze at the end of the day it glides off into the sunset wing and wing as smoothly as any boat ever will.

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Hawk had a Sea Pearl, and sold it to buy this CS17.  He is disenchanted with all the reefing lines on the CS17– too complicated for him.  He missed the simplicity of the Sea Pearl.  He bought another Sea Pearl.  Moral of the story— Save your breath.  He’s selling a beautiful boat.  Let’s help him get rid of it, and into the hands of someone who will love it.

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Just saw this classified ad on Small Craft Advisor. There are 3 B&B boats listed in today's email (a Marissa, a Lapwing, and the CS17). I hope the CS17 owner left off a digit on the price. Looks like a great deal even if it is a 4-digit price.

 

 

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B&B Core Sound 17

Have had this bought for about 9 years. I did not sail it last year. It is in good shape, but I did uncover some rot on the deck between the rub rail and the deck joint. I believe it is easily repaired. Comes with the canvas cover shown. The sails have been used about 12 times. They are in excellent shape. I am the third owner for this boat. I updated the sail plan so it is consistent with the new B & B designs. The sails are easily reefed now. I will throw in the honda 2 hp if someone is willing to pay the asking price of $500. Boat has a trailer that had its bearings replaced when I bought it.

Price: $500

Location: Western Minnesota

Contact: tom.frei@hey.com

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