Chick Ludwig Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Here we go again, y'all. I just gotta keep building some dang boat! The reports will be kinda sporatic. I just ain't gonna go out in the "garop" on cold days. i hope this boat will meet our needs for a boat to carry with us when we go camping. The last plan was for the B&B design motor canoe. We found it to just be too tender for us old folks out on the big lakes with the big stink-potters cruising by on half plane and throwing up big "rollers". It will be for sale if any of y'all are interested. If it weren't for the need to use it on the big lakes, we would be very pleased with it. Here’s my report on building my Tango Skiff 12. I’ll stray from the plans a bit to make the boat a “take apart” boat to allow me to stack the two sections in the back of my truck so I can still pull our camper. I’ll also use thinner plywood for the hull construction to save some weight. The bottom is 6mm okoume 1088 marine ply. The sides are 4mm. There will be some stringers added to the bottom to stiffen it. And also, I’ll join the panels with butt joints rather than scarphing the plywood. To top it all off, the ply I’m using is actually 8”-2” long, so I’ll utilize the longer pieces to make the hull a bit longer. There will be some minor changes in the interior layout, too. So far I’ll cut my hull panels and laminated the transom. Today I have the basic hull wired together. Obviously, the outline of the bottom panels where they join the sides had to be modified to account for the added length. A minor change. The hull is out of shape until the bulkheads are installed. Here is the website for the design. http://www.tangoskiff.com/ First picture is of the panels butt joined with glass tape on both sides. Laying out curve where the bottom will join the sides. Second picture is with the panels wired together with baling wire. I like it because it can be twisted to tighten the joint. I made a slight miscalculation on the length of the side panels so the afterplanes will need to be cut back a bit. The transom is moved forward the same amount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Tango Skiff 12 Build log notes. #2 All that has gotten done so far on my Tango 12 was to get the hull sprung into shape with the forward bulkhead and a “stick” to push the sheer out to the proper beam. The seams are all “tack welded” with epoxy fillets. Next step is to remove the wires, fillet the gaps, and apply glass tape. Since taking these pictures, the wires have been removed, seams finished filleting, and all seams taped. Now to wait for warm enough days to do the next steps. Isn't summer EVER gonna get here?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted February 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Time to catch up with y'all. Tango Skiff 12 Build log notes. #5 The center take apart bulkhead has been installed. The after planes are finished, ready for glassing. I’ll finish most of the glass taping at one time. Framing has been added around the aft seat/stowage boxes to attach the seat top to. I still have to glass tape the boxes in place. There is another little bulkhead forward that will have pour foam ahead of it. The bow platform is cut and set in place temporarily. We’re getting close to flipping the boat over to glass the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Tango Skiff 12 Build log notes. #6 The first picture is foam poured all the way up front. This, along with the wooden construction will keep the bow afloat. Next is the stern seat top set in place. It will be removed to pour foam in the cavities in the after plane. Finally, the bow deck is glassed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wommasehn Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hi Chick, I'm so glad, that youre posting again some build. Really looking forward for the next steps and the finished boat. I missed your reports lately..... Go ahead! Tobias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted February 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks, Tobias. Just a simple little boat, but maybe it will meet the need for a boat to take camping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricknriver Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 Looking good Chick, as with all your work. Motivating me to get back to the Amanda here in FL. Hope to finish her by April. Keep safe, warm and dry. RickZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted February 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Hi Rick! I am "plugging away" between "life" and lod. Seems like only 2 or 3 afternoons a week are all that are warm enough for my old bones to get out in the garop. But, no rush. Just gotta be done in time for camping season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Tango Skiff 12 Build log notes. #8 Progress has been slow here in the old “garop”. Only a few details ledft before turning the hull over to glass the seams and add the keel. Then it’s time to cut between the lines to make two pieces. The pictures tell the story, so here ya go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Camping has only 1 season. January through December. Not waiting required. When people asked why I would go backpacking in the White Mountains in winter I told them, no bugs. Boating on the other hand has a season. Solid water is hard on boats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 My wife loves camping---in our little pull behind. Never on a boat. I'm a "fair-weather" camper AND boater. Gotta be warm enough! Don't much care for land camping anyway. But, i love my nights aboard. i really miss the salt water, though. These lakes are pretty boring. trees all look alike. Shores lined with rich-folk houses. No tides, surf, sandy beaches, porpoises, sea turtles, stuff washed in after a storm, light houses, old fishing communities, etc., etc. But then, Thrillsbe reminds me---No skeeters, oyster shells, sting rays, sharks, stingy jelly-fish, etc.,etc. I tell him, "But, I LIKE all those things!" ...except the skeeters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyster Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 You are having too much fun while executing a great idea. Hope it works out for you. I would be in the same situation if the wifey would allow me right now, out in the shed building a nesting runabout for the camping trip. You have all the luck. Have you figured out your expected weight and power? I may have missed it since I have been told I ain"t the brightest incandescent light bulb sometimes. ;<} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Total boat is supposed to be about 110# built according to plans. I've reduced the plywood thickness to reduce weight. I'm hoping heaviest half will be well under 50# so wife and I can load it on the truck. Little old Nissan frontier only has a 5 1/2 foot bed, so boat will have to go on the ladder rack. or maybe half of it in the bed resting on the tailgate. I'll figure that out when it's built. Power will be my 2.5 Mr. Zuki. Turtler would plane with that and just me. I hope for the same with this one if their is enough water-plane area to lift it on plane. With 2 aboard, we'll just putz along. May get a bigger motor. Dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyster Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thanks for the info. I have a 4hp for the inflatable. But the room and wobbly nature with a portable floor has not grown on me yet. But they are surely portable. I also have the 5.8 foot bed. I put together a box that has a divider for the bag and motor storage and this worked well with the locking tailgate. I looked at the nesting dinghy last year and looked to find a used one. That did not happen. So I stuck with the big "balloon" As the commercial says though, it ain't doing it for me. I may end up improving the setup of the box so I can transport the Moccasin 2, which I still have, and do a square stern on it for an engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 I don't like the inflatables either. I've experimented with various solutions to the "camping" boat to carry on the truck. I hope this one is the answer. You may have followed my build on the flat-back canoe. It works well enough with two of us aboard, but balance is a problem with just one sitting in the back. Rough water is kinda scary for this old codger, too. Gonna sell it. Any interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyster Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 I thought you has sold the flat back canoe a while back. I would have two people in my current one if I go that route. The moccasin 2 is not that bad. I just don't like paddling distances. But in the rivers out west there is some current, if you want to call it that because of the river flows. So the engine is a must. Now with the lakes and the bride with some wine and cheese, a slow drift at sunset requires little to nothing in the way of effort or petroleum products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I haven't visited with y'all in awhile. Since the last time, I've cut the boat in half, screwed and glassed the hull bottom and sides to the bulkheads, built up putty to sharpen the radius where the glass covered the corner, and faired it all out. Now the latest post. Tango Skiff 12 Build log notes. #12 Not much to show you today. The putty has all been faired off smooth, and a thin layer of 6 oz. cloth added on top to reinforce it and leave a sharp edge. Tomorrow I’ll add some putty over it just to fair it in smoothly with the hull. Next day, sand it. THEN the excitement begins! I’ll temporarily flip it over and join the halves! I can’t wait! Hope it all fits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Tango Skiff 12 Build log notes. #13 The join is DONE! Everything is faired ready for final epoxy coats, primer, and paint. I took the simple way out for the attachment method. Bolts. The 3/8 inch bolts are epoxied in place in the forward bow section. They slip through holes in the aft section, and nuts and washers are tightened down on them. There will be a gasket to prevent water from working its way into the aft section around the bolts. You’ll also notice “locating pins” in the aft section that will index into holes in the bow section. The pictures will make it all clear. Next job is the removable center seat and floorboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyster Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Gee, maybe you can do a Boston Whaler like commercial when you are done. What you have done is a cool undertaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 i remeber going to a boat race down in Good 'Ol Florida when I was a kidling, and the dealer for Boston Whaler was their and cut a boat in half with a chainsaw, and motored off in the back half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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