Search the Community
Showing results for tags 'cs17'.
Found 6 results
Oh Happy Day
Paul356 posted a topic in B & B Yachts ForumIt's a sailboat, right? So why do we spend all our time fussing with motors, batteries, trailers.... But at least today, little Miss Suzy Q started right up. One more thing to check off the list for the first trip of the season with the CS 17, planned Saturday to Lake Mendota in Madison. 20200610_170617.mp4
Core Sound 17 keel maintenance
greendane posted a topic in B & B Yachts ForumHi All--I picked up a CS17 almost a year ago. Yesterday I finally got it flipped over for some maintenance on the keel. There is some exposed wood and am not sure the best way to go about this. Looking for input from the fine folks here. First, I plan to take off the aluminum rail and the two steel (not stainless) trailer "roller guards" (the aluminum covers the front 2/3 of the keel--the back only has the two guards). Next, I plan to remove the paint the length of the keel (and an inch or so on either side of it) and start removing bad wood. If it's not too bad, I'm thinking I'll fill it up back to original form with thickened epoxy (with wood flour). If there are places where it's worse, I'll carve out that section and epoxy some oak in to replace it. Because I didn't build it, I'm not sure how it was constructed but it looks like the keel was glassed. After I fill it all back in, should I reglass it? One layer? And am I better to use something other than aluminum? I've read about brass and all that, but most of this wear comes from the trailer, not use in the water or on beaches. Second, as you can see in the pictures, the bow takes a little bit of a beating. I primarily boat in the saltwater around Camano and Whidbey Islands north of Seattle. The beaches are pretty rocky most of the time (and I do my best to find the "softest" landings I can). You can also see some of the roller scars from not quite getting it lined up before pulling in onto the trailer. (I'm getting better at it but I sail single-handed a good bit of the time--and sometimes the water conditions are pretty choppy at retrieval) I'm wondering what options I have to keep this part of the boat better protected. Extra layers of epoxy? Some strips of glass? Other? Thanks in advance. -Bryan
Core Sounds Racing with the Big Boats
Paul356 posted a topic in B & B Yachts ForumReacher and I tried something new on Saturday. We took our boats out with the PHRF fleet on Green Bay, and the heck of it was, we did pretty good! Reacher is a member at M&M YC in Menominee, Michigan, where they have a fairly active big boat racing program. This includes the annual "100 Miler" (which is only 45 miles long, for some reason) that usually attracts a lot of boats returning from the Chicago-Mackinac Race. Last Saturday, M&M held their annual Joey Shepro Memorial Doublehander, a more or less "fun race" and fundraiser for Make-a-Wish. Reacher suggested I trailer up from Milwaukee and we could enter our Core Sounds and see what happened. He has a 20, I have a 17. This race is c. 14 miles from their Club, out around Green Island in the middle of Green Bay and back. They were nice enough to give us PHRF ratings, which was interesting. Mine was 252. (That's seconds per mile, deducted from the final time, so I had about 62 minutes deducted.) Reacher's was 246, so they pegged him theoretically as 6 seconds a mile faster. For comparison, a Cape Dory 27 is 243 (New England PHRF) and a CD 22 is 282. The slowest boat in the fleet was deemed to be a Com-Pac 19-2, rated at 283, while the fastest was a Tripp 33, rated at 90. This was set up as a reverse start. The race started at noon, but each boat was given a unique starting time reflecting the handicap. In theory, in a perfect race, all boats would cross the finish line together. In practice, wherever you are in the race is your position at that time, since the handicap has already been accounted for. No need to figure out if you need to "give time" to a boat at the finish line, since that's all been handled at the start. Thus the Com-Pac, as the boat with the highest handicap, was supposed to start at noon, precisely. It never did, and we learned later that it could not point into the light breeze without starting its engine. Tip to consumers: don't buy a Com-Pac if you want to sail upwind in light air. I was next, at 12:07:02, and Reacher next after that 12:08:23. So it went until some 34 boats were off the line, with the last (fastest) one at 12:43. (Make sense?) The first leg was a beat of about 1.75 miles to a buoy before we turned to the island. Reacher and I kept company on the upwind, tho he passed me as we neared the mark. It was a blast sailing together. It was about 80 degrees out, full sun, the water sparkling blue, the wind maybe 6, puffing to maybe 8 mph, from the north east. I had us moving at 4 to 4.5 mph on the gps for most of the upwind. Then came a 3.5 mile close reach out the island. It wasn't until then that other boats in the fleet started to catch up. I decided to go south-about the island; Reacher and most of the fleet went to the north. Not sure if there was an advantage one way or another. I was hoping for more puffs on the broader reach back on the North side -- dreaming of a bit of planning -- but those puffs never materialized. GPS showed c. 5 mph on the way out, c. 6 on the way back. Reacher's larger sails definitely helped as the wind stayed around 6ish or a hair more. The water got a bit choppier, too, which hurt our light little craft when we had to punch into it but was still "flat" for the big keel boats. The last leg was around the buoy and back DDW to the finish. Almost caught up to a Catalina on that leg, but not quite. My speed was 3.5 to 4.5, depending. Their speed was flogging.... Results: As one of the big boat skippers said, in that light air, "it was a waterline race." In general, boats with longer hulls and therefore lower handicaps did better, which is typical for a PHRF fleet in light air. But Reacher was 18th of 34, and I was 26th, finishing in 3 hours 29 min. Reacher was done in 3:09. (Full disclosure: two boats abandoned and four were DSQ for whatever reason). Of the 28 that finished, I was in ahead of a S2 11.0 (handicap 161) and a Catalina 309 (HC 186), and Reacher also bested a Hunter 27, a Hunter 38, an S-9.2 and a Catalina 28, among others. I should add Reacher's a pretty fine sailor. Needless to say, Reacher and I were pretty darn pleased with these little boats. They kept moving in the light air, pointed well, reached well, ran well. We spent a long time after the race admiring them and talking about what mods we like on each of ours. We couldn't have kept up with the big boats in this year's Mac race, of course, given the 6 to 8 foot waves and the 30 mph winds on the nose. But in this race, hey, we were right in there. And it was a blast to be out on the water on such a beautiful day. And photos? I wish I had some, but sorry folks, can't race singlehanded and take pix, too. I might have one, and might have a gps track. Will see if I can find download. But be glad you have a Core Sound. Great boat.
Trailer for Core Sound 17
greendane posted a topic in B & B Yachts ForumHi All. Looking for advice on this specific ez-loader trailer type for a CS-17. I'm shopping used and hoping to be all in for under $500 and need galvanized for the salt water. First, I don't know what impact those swiveling bunks would have on a non-aluminium boat. Second, I'm trying to limit overhang to less than 4 feet. Third, while I could add keel rollers forward of the joint, it seems like a pretty big hole in the middle (between the rear and the triangle joint where I could add one). Seems like I'd want to have one there in the middle of outer space? Of the lighter-duty trailers I've seen recommended on the forums (capacity 600-1000 lbs), this is pretty common to find this model in my neck of the woods. This one is going for $350. Appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
CS17 MK3 - RONIN
theyachtcaptain posted a topic in Main Forum
UM2012 / EC2012 - Outfitting
ecgossett posted a topic in B & B Yachts ForumDue to time constraints and wanting to spend more time with family before next deployment I switched from the EC2012 to the Ultra Marathon 2012. I took great heed of the articles of people who dropped out of the EC and regretted not making their goal. Is anyone else here entered in either race this year? Any advice for outfitting my CS17 for the race? My three todo things before race are: 1) Oarlocks (looking at http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/oarlocks/index.htm) 2) Add foldup ladder on transom. 3) Mast stowage when down (need advice) for bridges. Do you guys usually row with mast up or down? V/R, Edward