Steve W
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That Hallberg-Rassy money needs to get you something.
Reminds me of a story from the summer of 2024. I had Skeene in Southest harbor, ME. Took my 2 gallon gas can to the Marina gas pump where a new Hinckley powerboat with 4 huge outboards was taking on 100's of gallons of gas. The guy from Hinkley asked me if my boat was the Core Sound which I confirmed. He pulled the nozzle, put it in my gas can, pumped two gallons and told me he loved the design and was sure me and my friends were having the most fun in the Marina. I tried to pay, but he wouldn't let me.
I like my hatch boards.
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This has been fun to watch. I'm currently having a new house built and when it's done, it's powerboat time. Not sure which design, but I'm anxious to get building. Seeing other folks progress is inspiring.
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Well, since no one has chimed in, I'll add my .02
Since the CS20 boats have good freeboard, you need a way to have the motor lower, but you already knew that. The Suzuki, like most other mounts, needs space when you tip it forward. Even though the tiller tips up, the motor itself needs some clearance. This makes it so that the bracket has to have a lot of room, or spring up so the motor is above the transom. Both ideas have problems.
In the long low bracket, with enough room for the motor to tilt, the weight is aft which isn't great. You can scooch forward to trim the boat, but it's amazing sailing in the company of others how many boats are dragging the transom.
In the popup bracket, the motor in it's raised position is high, raising the CG........where you also don't want it. You will need to remove the motor during travel with any bracket.
I believe the best option is to study the pages where integral mounts were made and design you own. Here is mine:
That is the start of the area of where I started and follows over a few pages.
I stole Graham's idea from Carlita but at his recommendation put it on the Starboard side. It wasn't that hard and the results are excellent. I did start out with a short shaft and I failed to realize that if I went forward the motor would be a bit starved for water and the exhaust would be above water. I converted to a long shaft by buying the parts. If I had to do it all over again, I would have cut the mount in a few inches lower and called it a day. When I sailed in the company of @amos I noticed his short shaft Suzuki 2.5 was fine.
The results are a sturdy place to keep the motor while trailering, and a low CG close as far forward as possible.
I hope this helps.
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Alan,
I want a windvane! I also know a boat very similar to mine that has one that seems to work very well. When you get done screwing around in Florida
, we need to talk. I've been staring at the live feed for far too long with my head tipped sideways in amazement.
Take Care,
Steve
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I've been checking in on and off since you started. If all goes well, I plan on doing the EC for the first time next year. I'm curious how much you use the spinnaker as I don't currently have one.
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Skeena had a similar reaction to the very light Grey, almost white paint I used on her. But when I got her in the water, all was forgotten. Your boat looks great.
I remember being where you are and someone said I was 80% done with 80% to go, and while there was a lot of details, to me that was the fun stuff. One of my favorite memories of building was cleaning up my workspace at night and sitting in the cabin or cockpit and shop sailing. Seven years down the road from those moments and I'm literally living those dreams.
I can't wait to see her on the water.
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This will be fun to watch. And the idea of an insulated boat is very appealing. Skeena's condensation at night can be annoying.
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I still haven't produces a video from my epic trip to Maine last summer, but here is a sneak peak! Skeena is such a great boat.
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This is a great conversation. As mostly a recreational sailor, I've never done any of these techniques, but obviously will make notes and practice.
Mostly I've just sheeted the mizzen hard, pulled up the Centerboard and rudder and took my time while drifting backwards. It's usually doing something with the main and I can steer the boat by backwinding the main. I do lose some ground.
If it's going to be more than the few seconds it takes to reef, I'll tip the motor down and start it, locked straight forward. It only takes idle on my Suzuki or my E-Propulsion to stop the reverse progress and feels very safe. I've done this long enough to go below, look around for something while feeling very safe........Amos will remember when I got asked for my registration number approaching a lift bridge.......it's now written with a sharpie on the aft hatch cover.
Take Care,
Steve
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Nice videos! The Standing lug rig looks like a good option. I've always been a bit frustrated in the time it takes to rig my 11N and as such don't sail it as much as I should. I also wish I had a rig that would fit inside the boat easily when rowing laid down. Ideally it would be an alternate and use the same mast step. I'm building a house on the Erie Canal and will be fooling around with the Suzy J once it get's built. I may start messing with an alternate rig then.
Take Care,
Steve
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December has been so busy that I only got to this yesterday. Great listen. Graham, Alan, and the B & B team has brought me a lot of joy over the years with hopefully much more to come. Happy New Year to all!
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Can this be retrofitted?
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Peter,
I didn't realize there was a Princess 28. Do you know how much she weighs, draft, and any other particulars. I'm intrigued.
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Alan,
great pics. Wish I was there. I've made a promise to myself to focus on being there next year. I'm assuming those two boys are yours. Enjoy every moment of the amusement and unproductivity they provide. It doesn't last forever.
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It's been awhile (15 years) but I went into Home Depot back then and looked in the Vinyl siding section and found a piece of extruded trim that is about 3/4 x 1/2 and I think it's at least 10 feet long. It's pulled may fair curves in it's lifetime with hopefully many more to go. Hopefully yhey still have this.
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Very sorry to read that.
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I took Skeena on a low wind shakedown yesterday before I head to Maine August 2nd fr two weeks sailing out of Rockland. A couple of thoughts:
1. I love this boat. When you spend as much time as I did building, it would be a bummer if it wasn't waht you thought.
2. My sails need a bit of work. The batten pockets stitching and some other areas need attention. Time to get to work with needle and thread. The clock is ticking.
3. A video. She sails herslelf:
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Jay, that looks fun-ish! I feel like I got at least one more boat build in me once I retire. I'm anxious to see the finished product!
Take Care,
Steve
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Jonathan,
I wrapped it in the foam it came in and tuked it in the forward part of the aft locker. This weekends project is to come up with a better plan.
Paul,
Your install was an inspiration.
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Like Bob Dylan in 65, Skeena has gone electric, at least most of the time.
How this happened. I put a 6HP motor on Skeena that had frward and reverse. Magical to have reverse. But the size and weight weren't great. So it was back to the Suzuki 3hp.
Then I got enticed by the Epropulsion Spirit 1.0
I started looking at revues (mostly very positive, a few not) and dreamed of a quiet electrical experience with reverse. As a 6 year owner of a Chevy Bolt, I'm a huge electric fan. Low (no) maintenace, whisper quiet, lots of torque, no gas vapors, full tank every morning, no more gas station junk food, etc.
So I bought one. Got it a few weeks ago. Sadly, unlike any other outboard I've ever seen, the tiller doesn't tip up and so it wouldn't fit in the space I'd created for my Suzuki. Grrhhh!
Who designed this thing? But I wasn't giving up. I bought an extension cable for the battery and a lid that replaces the battery.
I routed the extension into the Starboard aft compartment where the Battery now lives at it's front. This keeps the weight of the battery off the stern a bit. Used a SeaView Cable Gland. A really great product to keep the compartment water tight.
Here is the motor on Skeena. I do have to rotate the motor 90 degrees and before I tip up to accomidate the tiller handle (dumb).
While I don't have any video, I wil say that this expencsive toy is a joy. I backed into a slip in Burlington Vermont while I was talking on my cell phone. Incredible.
I do have range anxiety and less money. At 3.2 knots in calm seas it goes 8 hours. More to come.
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Very cool. What 360 Camera are you using?
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I am sure this deserves it's own thread, but since this is personal, I'll keep it here. When I fitst saw Graham's 3D drawings of the CS 20.3, I was smitten. I studied them pretty hard and the only thing bugging me was the possibility I couldn't sit aganst the hull on the berths. Enter Doug Cameron who pm'ed me. He'd build the prototype and extended an invitation to come see "Look Far" in Tennesee. I had an opprtuunity to swing by on the way to deliver my father's car to Florida.
I spent 4 hours talking boats, taking measurements to make sure I could get Skeena out of my basement, and just life in general. I didn't want to leave. Doug and I stayed in touch off and on in corespondence. I watched all his activities in the EC and other things and admired his spirit and kindness. I thought we'd cross paths again, but it wasn't meant to be.
Boys and Girls, use those boats. The next sail isn't garaunteed. Fair Winds Doug. Myself and our/your community will miss you.
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Take Care,
Steve
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Always wash with water ( i add one drop of dish detergent) before final sand and paint. I left some blush in the anchor locker and what a mess it was to fix.....
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I'd thicken some epoxy and use a room key card to push into the holes. Finish as desired.
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Changes to Core Sound 20 mk3, #2, Windependent 2 (AKA Southern Express)
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FTR, the hatch you see is pretty good. It was my second try. I didn't like the tip up hatch. I think it looks great, but Paul Stewart's looks really great and the one I'd recreate.