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  1. Thanks all for the guidance so far and look forward to others. Will roam the suggested designer resources and maybe narrow my choices down some, but take all the guidance I can get.  The program would be for a large riverfront Council Camp serving Troops throughout the east. We're looking to capture the adventure spirit of, and challenge, older Scouts that many troops have trouble keeping interested and excited about Scouting. Also hoping to generate interest in lower cost/historical/traditional boatbuilding skills and operation that visiting Troops can take back home with them and share.  R

  2. My 3 Sea Scout years were aboard a 56' Ex-CG Harbor Tug in Jersey in the late 50's. Up and down the Jersey coast and around NYC. Mechanically rebuilt and maintained by the Ship and our Leaders. Turned me away from the budding street gangs, and will be ever grateful for the leadership and skill foundations that led to successful Navy and civilian careers. We're trying to revive the past programs in E. NC too. As I search around, seems like the more successfull ones may be the more formal and strict programs?  My Leaders were former Navy Chiefs and Marine Gunneys and super strict, but as we saw the results in our own skill development we ate it up. Neat for a 16 year old, who couldn't drive yet, to pilot that tug around Manhattan among all the big commercial operations.  Thank you for your committment to our young men and women. Happy to pass along any of our successes. Just thoughts. Rick

  3. Hope this request is not out of line, but was asked to help conjure up/"create" an intermediate level adventure sail & row mini-Raid style program for older Boy Scouts to grow into from current Sunfish, & kayak fleets. Something challenging/traditional that the older Scouts could participate both in the construction, and in the sailing, and rowing (when wind dies) pirate-like adventures/contests during their week at camp at our eastern North Carolina location on the Pamlico River. Anyone know of a boat kit or plans for an easy and cheap to build 2-crew, maybe sharpie-like, shallow draft, boat, with decent performance, that may be practical for a program like this? Or, a like program already in operation?  Hoping it would provide both skill and teamwork development in a fun package. Might be able to get some funding from local business "sponsors" for the kits/materials. Thank you for your thoughts and ideas.  Rick, BnB/BRS15

  4. My newly acquired BRS-15 #51 ('03 NC PCCC hull build, finished "05) has the mizzen sheet routed from the blocks through a bullseye and to  a camcleat on the inside of each aft quarter gunnel.  Some pictures of a nice teal and buff one (#1? no stern seat) that came with the boat show the sheet routed from the transom block directly to a camcleat on each P/S seat front. Plans I have ('93-'94) do not show rigging detail. Does it matter? Any advantages/disadvantages of each I should know of?  Also transom sheet blocks are only mounted with one small screw so they can swivel vs a swivel mounted block? Just a cost saving thing-risky?  Thanks, Rick 

  5. Hate to add a motor, as oars should cover most aux needs, but need safety cushion for grandkids and seniors on rivers and sounds of E. NC. Think I'd like a liftable bracket on the stern for maybe a hopefully v. quiet?? 3.5 Tohatsu or similar 4S (would work on my other sm boats). What would be the best way to reinforce the standard transom if needed? Would a large alu backing plate(s) work or do I need to glass/glue-n-screw in additional wood in the port quarter area? Thought first of a 40-50# electric but after reading many of your posts, some here seem to think extra battery weight, shorter running time, and batt storage limitations (bow? under fwd/miz thwart?) make gas a better choice. Thanks, Rick 

  6. Had a nice chat with her builder. Started in Graham's CCC class in 2003 and finished by Larry McNellis in 2005.  Sailed very little since then but plan to make up for that. Many thanks for all your posts.  They will help a lot.  A few little mods, HIN, registration, some back-up power, then "Shaliste" will be on the water. I'll hopefully learn to sail her well quickly.  If there is anything unique about the BRS15 I should know and you can share, I'd love the info.  See ya on NC waters, and beyond. Thanks, Rick

  7. Very fortunate to have acquired BRS15 #51 today as my cat ketch trainer, until I decide on a larger build.  Curious about her history.  Apparently started in one of Graham's CCC classes awhile back as Word Perfect and Lotus being taught same time :-) per schedule sheet but its not dated.  One plan sheet dated 8/93.  Last two owners were Larry McNellis, and most recently Andy Spencer. Very nicely done craft in exc condition, and anxious to get her on the water. Only fix I see needed is mizzen thwart has split a bit aft of the mast.  Guess I can glue and reinforce it from underneath the thwart.  Any history details appreciated. Thank you, Rick 

  8. Hi, A friend was gifted a Trinka 12 hull but no sailing rig.  Anyone have the specs/plans source for the piece-parts so I could possibly create a set for her.  Web search turned up Trinka 10 sail measurements, but no detailed info on sail/spars, daggerbd, rudder, sizing for the "12". Thanks, Rick

  9. Thank you for the note of support and reinforcement for my decision G Man.  Good to hear there is another one underway and that you are so well along.  Have the plans (#42) and hope to have the shop ready in a week or two.  Then off to B&B for materials.  Fortunately they're nearby.  Will keep you posted and probably pester you & others with questions. Have been compliling notes from other builds and would appreciate any BH19 specific things to watch out for, if any :-).  Rick 

  10. Wow, that is a fine looking conversion with lovely lines, but truly requiring knowledge and skills way beyond my pay grade. Thank you for the background information too for me and others.  Puts my "scheming" to rest for now.  The Belhaven 19 seems like the best, and least complex option for my basic skills and small simple, shallow water, weekender desires at this time. I will hopefully get her in construction soon and on the water by late summer. Rick 

  11. Hi Tom, Thank you very much for the information.  Felt that way too but since I'm new to these designs and constructions was fishing for some reinforcement.  A Belhaven it will be.  I probably will be a real forum pest when I get started :D. Thankfully I'm close to many of you.  Hope my building friend won't mind the extra construction time in his shop over the CS17 we originally planned.  R

  12. Guessing there may be major design differences that may discourage it,  but wondering if anyone has successfully coverted a small sloop (e.g. San Juan 21, O'Day, Catalina) to a cat ketch rig to gain the ease & speed of set up/take down, easy sailing, and sail configuration options.  Lots of these little sloops around cheap. Thanks, Rick

  13. Hi, Just about to dive into a BH19 but fell on Shell Boats site and saw their "similar" Great Blue Heron 19'.  My first build and bit scared to build the BH19 from just plans. Heron comes as a "complete" kit for $9k.  Anyone know how they compare in sailing quality, features, etc?  Suprisingly looks like few of either been built yet seem like nice fun weekenders. Little info on the Shell Boats site.  Thanks, Rick

  14. That would be GREAT and make it wonderfully easy and sooooooooo tempting, but not sure my budget could cover all the fine labor you have put into her - but maaaaybe.............. I've kind of watched her "grow up" thanks to your fine postings here, and enjoyed her company at messabout.  Your thoughts?  Rick :) 

  15. Wise words Peter.  Have a bunch of assorted little boats though, so think I'll try some epoxy n glass practice on some daggerboards, maybe a rudder, mast bases and thwarts for my canoe that I want to rig for sailing, and another I have to do a major repair on, while I get sorted out on the BH19.  ScottD's great detailed and photoed posts are almost a daily to-do list and I'm really grateful for them and all the suggestions and responses they elicited. Working an angle on a possible partially completed one and if that doesn't pan out, think I just jump lightly in, pray a lot, and hope for all your continued great coaching. Some other builders close by too. Maybe ready for a fall messabout  :)?  Rick

  16. Hi, Had planned a CS17 (#281) this spring as a prep build for a later cabin boat but would really like the creature comforts of the cabin boat for a couple of seniors (& wee doggie) for day sailing on the Pamlico River and 2-3 day adventures in coastal rivers and sounds. Had a FGlass 23' sloop years ago but too difficult and time consuming to rig & unrig for trailering.  Really liked Scott's BH19 at Graham and Carla's last fall Messabout, especially the apparent easy set up and sailing of the cat ketch rig.  Would the Belhaven 19 be a much more difficult challenge for a first boat build than the CS17, or just more time and patience?  Have some carpentry experience, and a skilled woodworking friend/helper with a nice shop and building space. When time permits.  Thanks, Rick, Washington, NC  :?

  17. Have to delay my CS17 281 build a bit due some medical stuff, but want to get a little frostbite sailing in.  Could I create a 1/2 or 2/3 scale CS17 mizzen from my plans as a main for my 15'x36" 63# Dagger tandem canoe? Would help me learn that rig. Have scrap around for leeboards, mast step, etc.  Anyone tried it? Could I just scale it down % wise?  Would another simple small rig be better. Nothing "exciting", just want to get out and play easy & safe with some upwind capability.  Maybe use it in a Moccasin2 or Birder2 some day.  Canoe Sailing guys have suggested balance lug , lanteen, and some others. Still learning. Thanks, Rick

  18. A bit tardy Merry Christmas, and a safe fun New Year to all.  Guess my best ?? but bit scarey present was getting hooked on building a CS17 kit (#281) thanks to Graham, Carla, all your helpful posts & pics, and Messabout09. A couple of friend and family medical tune-ups in Jan will delay start a bit but hope to be on the water by late Spring. Thanks,  Rick NC

  19. Interesting but I worry battery weight and storage would mess up the balance, and add lots of weight to the CS17 I plan to build from a kit soon. May suffer from saltwater exposure too in its current state.  Would like electric and have worked the web on the subject a good bit but battery weight and duration always a challenge.  Not so much on larger displacement power launches, but on sail. Big UK electric boat site at http://www.electric-boat-association.org.uk/ and many of them still using trolling motors. A German outfit has come up with a promising alternative - Torquedo - that may bear watching but very expensive.  Think I'll stick to a 50# trolling motor with two deep cycles for now, and hope the great handling of the CS17, oars, and the wind god will minimize the need for the motor :-).  Rick

  20. Wanted to return to sailing and caught the CS bug at Messabout last month. Plan to start build early in the new year in sailing friend's (v.good cabinet maker) garage in nearby Bath NC, then one for him if all goes well.  First boat build, so going to use Graham's kit. May have lots of questions as we go, especially on rear deck & rigging/reefing options :D. Have learned lots already from neat people just reading through the forum. We're excited!  Happy & Safe Thanksgiving to all. Rick, Washington NC 

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