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  1. I just bought a Core Sound 17 Mark 3, hull number 6, an early build named Avocet. Because I got it in November and brought it to Wisconsin it went right into storage and I only explored it for a couple hours at my son’s house. This is Avocet’s story with me so far: I am 6’5” as well. (Again, I was only in the cabin for a few minutes so my experience is very limited.) The headroom was… OK… and I can tell that I will need to get used to moving around in ways that avoid my head meeting the bulkheads. But, I did lay down on a bunk to see how I fit. I believe that I will be quite comfortable sleeping and stretching out… there is a LOT of space aft of the “end” of the bunk (under the seats) for storage… and legs. It seems to me that some modifications were made to provide more head room in subsequent Mark 3 plans. Check with B&B about headroom numbers. Alan did a great overview of Graham’s CS17 Mark 3 at A number of builders in this forum have done a great job of documenting their Mark 3 builds and questions which arose. I built a Core Sound 15 from B&B’s FULL kit that included all parts accurately cut that fit together perfectly. Epoxy, glass cloth, rigging and sails were part of the kit. The price, I thought, was very reasonable and seems to be considerably less than other kits I’ve seen. I’m not sure how much more the kit cost than the actual cost of the high quality materials B&B uses for their kits. With the kit approach, I had the boat in the water in 3 months (without sails… the shutdown slowed the sail order). I have the satisfaction of assembling a well built boat by using the kit and studying Alan’s video series. If you’ve not seen the 20 videos check them out. It is WHY I decided to go with B&B Yachts and a Core Sound 15. (First video link on this page.) https://bandbyachtdesigns.com/core-sound-15-plans/ This is my build blog for Norma T: Alan has assembled a list of builds with links to builders’ blogs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT1R3As1Yb5QnI4u8--O5NTlJ-4BA37E68n0ofQhhsxFVAAHtuAiY7FDI0dJvZTNtGr_5PhK3u3cPmF/pubhtml?gid=1922175428&single=true Finger joints were the first thing I needed to do in my build and, while doing any task for the first time feels intimidating, I followed the process in the videos and plans and the finger joints made very effective and solid joints. I don’t see finger joints as a feasible thing to cut accurately with a hand saw. I built a ski boat in 2021 from plans only and used butt joints for the side and deck pieces. I bought my plywood and solid wood from B&B and had a scarfs cut onto the ends of a few 9mm plywood pieces to make the joints for the bottom planking. Finger joints would have been more effective, I think. I encourage you to give strong consideration to a kit for a Mark 3 build. Time savings is significant and parts are perfectly accurate to allow for your own quality build. Shipping might not be as high as you think. I decided to pick up the kit myself rather than arranging for shipping I enjoyed making the trip to North Carolina to meet the B&B people and ask a ton of questions. Graham and Alan spent a few hours with me providing information and verbal assistance.
  2. The Weezer has painted the inside to her satisfaction but the paint needs more time to harden. As I write it’s -1 degrees and heading down for the night. There is some heat in the garage so we’ll see how things are in the morning. We cut some boards for the building form that can be used to support the boat when we flip it, hopefully tomorrow morning. Just for fun, she placed the missing seat, trunk, and deck pieces to see what it will look like. I think it is looking great. (Gunwales will be white, not taped blue ?.)
  3. A Way to Anchor : a “Clothesline” I spotted this on an article (Click Here) by a lady in New Zealand about the Nesting Spindrift 10 she built. I am posting her approach to anchoring away from shore (or dock) so I don’t forget about it. It looks clever and I might find it useful. I’ve come up with a similar idea but not with a loop. This approach could be more effective, and it could bring in a boat bow first. ?
  4. The Kid is Charging Ahead I didn’t even check in with The Weezer yesterday. When I did so last night she was at Lowes getting some supplies. I stopped in this morning with my small can of anti-slip compound for the sole and she had already finished the third coat on the seats and sides. She added a bit more red to make the paint a tad darker. (Mixing the compound into some pink paint to add coats to the sole.) Notice how I’m not doing anything? ? With on-line school this week (and possibly next) we’ll likely flip the hull soon so she can complete the painting. Maybe she’ll install the middle pieces (she left them bright finished) before flipping.
  5. There must be some creative approaches to a quick and easy lowering of masts. The mizzen is easier and a snap, I’d think, with a tabernacle. I’d think the main would be a little more challenging to bring down in control. Graham and Alan must have some safe strategies of lowering the masts for bridges. One brain thought I’ve had on this… connecting together the ends of extra halyards from each mast, using the line off the raised mizzen to help lower the main mast (catch if it gets away?) and then the mizzen should be an easier process. Another brain thought… some sort of counterbalancing spring or bungee in the bottom of the tabernacled main mast connecting to the inside of the anchor well to take some of the “weight” of the mast as it’s lowered. Hmmmmm. ? And, a mast float might give another edge of security against turtling. I’m just finishing two of them, one for each of my Core Sounds. Another thought for a retired guy from a newly retired guy… I’ve already built two boats since 2020, but now I’m much more interested in playing with them during my summer time than dealing with a lot of epoxy and dust. The CS15 build was quick, doing it from a kit… about three months. The ski-boat is a longer process (almost done), doing it from plans only. I enjoyed both, but I think I’m done… mostly. Buying Avocet rounds things out for me. Besides, my wife was gracious about leaving her car outside for my two builds… AND cleaning up from the dust. I think she’s done with that. ? SO, I offer encouragement to you to build from a kit if possible.
  6. Dnjost, Here’s the thread created last September by Andy B in which both Graham and Alan offer the intriguing information about the SR20: By the way, the photo is my daughter, her husband, my two sons and a grandkid trying out Norma T for the first time. I think it came in here because it’s the first photo on the thread. Be sure to click on the link on Graham’s post to see a really great set of construction photos on the prototype build of the SR20. The photo link: https://photos.app.goo.gl/74WXsZVnrM9mAXkv9 And, of course, if intrigued, contact B@B. ?
  7. Dnjost, I’ve read some of your stuff in the forum and have enjoyed your contributions. If a cabin isn’t as important as people space, I understand that B&B is about ready to offer a new variation on the Core Sound 20 using Mark3 features (water ballast, centerboard to the side of the cockpit, motor well, self-draining cockpit (I think), two tabernacles, etc.). It’s being called SR20, I think. (SR is for self-righting… isn’t THAT a cool feature?) An aspect that really intrigued me about SR20 is the open cockpit. My CS15 (Norma T) has carried 4-6 adults in the open cockpit (lake sailing) and I like all the room available in a 20 foot version of Core Sound. (I note that some have added a dodger to open boats for a bit of spray protection.) I was ready to buy plans for SR20 when available and build it from a kit that I believe is either available or just around the corner. Then, I encountered Avocet being for sale and I bought it (CS17 Mark3 number 6 hull). It when right into storage and I haven’t experienced it yet. I will find the forum posts about the SR20 from Alan and add it to another post. You might really like what it offers. I bring this up here because of your concern about raising and lowering masts. An open cockpit CS20, in the new Self-Righting version, might make the process easier than with a Mark3 with a cabin. In the SR20 there is no centerboard trunk in the middle of the forward cockpit area (ease of movement) and there is a tabernacle for each mast.
  8. (Be sure to check The Weezer’s most recent post at the bottom of the previous page — she added it this morning and THIS post forced a new page.) —————————————————— She’s Working Well — Starting the Inside Topcoats The high School shut down ? for 10 days. I heard there are over 400 infections and many staff are sick (unsure if the number is correct but the problem is significant.) On-line classes for the next week but this might give The Weezer time to move her boat toward completion. Three coats of primer, sanding and surface-wiping make things ready for topcoat paint. She intends that the eventual white on the gunwales will come down an inch inside, so things are taped off. She decided that what I’ve used, Interlux Brightsides, will be what she’ll use to finish her Spindrift. Pink isn’t available, but using my Goldenbook training as a kid (The Color Kittens) we’re gonna make our own. Hee hee hee… eye of newt… ear of bat… blood of Brightsides… Starting coat one. For the second coat she might darken it a tad, plus add some thinner to the mixture. Oh, and all I’m doing these days is talking. SHE is doing the doing. ?
  9. Some Pink Primer I stopped in today to see how the first coat of primer is turning out. The Weezer had already sanded things. For a second coat of primer we added about six or eight teaspoons of red paint to about 2/3 quart of white primer… making a light pink. Then, I left to let her do the whole process on the second coat. The Weezer has been very skilled at seeing a process and duplicating it. She might even enlist her older sister (home from college) to help out. (Paint fight in the making??? ?) The plan is light pink inside, deeper pink (is that a thing? ?) for the outside, white for a bootstripe and the gunwales, and bright for the thwart, deck, dagger board and rudder. Her white sail is SPECIAL ORDERED from B&B with pink numbers. Should be a nice looking combination.
  10. I played the dad with her… but she assured me that they were “old” and paint won’t matter. (I didn’t check with her mom ?.)
  11. SOOOO… Did the boys see the kit? And, are you guys gonna start a new thread about your fun Spindrift project?
  12. Christmas break, and The Weezer is back from family visits with some time to start the painting process. Yay! I thought we might as well try out the “roll and tip” approach in the initial primer coat. Biggest challenge? Maybe keeping her hair out of the paint??? ?
  13. Interesting Article: Cabin or no Cabin? Starting to look more closely at the 90 page winter edition of the Dinghy Cruising Journal, that just came to my house (all the way from England), the first article I noticed and read was about the matter at hand in this thread. I thought I would post a photo of the read: Consider joining the Dinghy Cruising Association. (Roger Barnes is the organization’s president.). They produce a high quality, beautifully done quarterly journal. It’s printed on heavy paper with great articles and photos… and no commercial ads within.
  14. My wife came up with an Amazon order for two 5’ rolls of outdoor use stick-on vinyl in black and white that we will use for making the fish-faces instead of trying to paint those details. (My hand just wouldn’t paint this as well as my cutting vinyl with a scissors.) We temporarily taped on some cut black paper pieces to see what the yellow float might look like. (The red float will get white vinyl pieces for the face.)
  15. Norma T is in the Dinghy Cruising Journal — (A 2nd time!) I just opened my copy of the Dinghy Cruising Journal that just arrived (Roger Barnes’ organization). I quickly flipped half way through the pages, making very quick glances. Norma T popped out at me on page 43!! ? This is the photo I had posted 2/3 the way down page 1 of THIS thread, stating that the newly purchased red tent shall be my camping solution for the boat (for now.) And this is a snapshot of the journal posting my photo: SO… I guess, given such attention in this “World-Wide” publication, I am even more “pressured” to actually follow through with camping out on my CS15 next summer using this setup. I have already been planning to do so. I find that I enjoy thinking about where and how to pull it off… and to do so more than once… even though I recently purchased a CS17 Mark3 (Avocet). I’ll bet my boys will give the red-tent-on-platform camp/cruise approach with Norma T a shot as well. ?
  16. I’ve appreciated the No-Ads approach of being a supporting member… at $12/year ($1/month) ?
  17. Getting ready for the whole family to join us. ? I’m planning to have the mast floats ready for the grandkids to name them… and I’m preparing myself for the name Floaty ? for the yellow one. ?
  18. Final coat of paint. I think the FIN-ish is suf-FISH-ent for the PERCH on top of the mizzen masts. The 10 foot rule is thus enforced. ? Next comes a fish-face for each. Gotta practice my fish-face yoga first.
  19. Yep, Meester, that is a good illustration of your idea. I like it.
  20. Meester… that sounds like a better approach to my idea (which I won’t do) of putting hole in the gunwale for removable pins that protrude below to provide a purchase. Good idea. This is worth considering.
  21. Yup… we didn’t replace kitchen counter tops when renovating our house 8 years ago. But now that I’m retired and “done” building boats, guess what house task is rising up. ? Actually, I found myself toying around with the idea of making a RC scaled version of my CS15, the Norma T… maybe a 1/6th version at 30”. There’s gotta be SOMETHING to get in the way of replacing perfectly serviceable countertops, sink, and faucet. ?
  22. That’s still a stumper for me, although for my red boat I have a couple 20’ cam straps that I can tighten from bow eye to transom eye on both sides which could serve as tie-down points. I’ll play with that next summer. I pondered using removable pins poking through holes in the gunwale… but it’s the permanent-thing I’m avoiding. And, as a “six” month sail-camping solution, perhaps you, Chick, and I ought to have a genuine conversation about stabling and exercising Avocet during my skiing ⛷ months in North Carolina.
  23. A Coat of the Final Color A pink one becomes red: I think we’ll go with the yellow for the other:
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