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  1. We've improved the float considerably since our first version. Currently we have a 20lb float and a 30lb float. Here are some pictures of one of the first 20lb floats. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZTwr4HrRCWPGKpVj9 The 20lb would be suitable for the CS-17. The 30lb would be suitable for the 20 Mark 3. Both are assembled from 4 layers of CNC cut blue foam and "speared" with a piece of pvc pipe which makes for a quick and easy assembly that is perfectly aligned. Glass with 4oz cloth. The rotate very nicely on an aluminum "mast" which sticks up from the actual mast. Could also be side mounted on a mast that is not a B&B kit mast. Removes quickly with a cotter pin. I hope to have a few cut out at the mess about. A few have asked for these and it's just another thing on our list of things waiting to be added to the website.
  2. dd97, I am not sure if Cap't Bones is planning to bring his or not. If not then no there won't be one there. Doug has hull #2 but she's not ready for the water quite yet. -Alan
  3. Here is the current list of boats you're likely to see at this years messabout. Sign up and add yours if you don't see it here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQNHZyXYwXtqoK0od56zY75FNxF_9VUKYQ40F7PQXo2Onr8ZGtYdFAyzYqKnd2mmtlR70m_qCQdTXk6/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true
  4. More Here! https://bandbyachtdesigns.com/messabout/
  5. The boat was never meant to row. The sides are just too high to make it work. This is by necessity since we're trying to get the maximum volume we can above the CG for self righting also why the coamings/side decks are sealed volumes with hatches, so they don't scoop water. These volumes seen below in green. She will also float quite high in the water on her side but won't be on her side for long with the ballast tank full. It's a pretty big trade off not being able to stow anything under the side decks like on the standard CS-20 but the full self draining cockpit is certainly nice. She was just weighed in at 743lbs empty. The ballast tank is 550lbs
  6. Hey Dave, We still keep a few of those in stock yes but they aren't the default for the 20mk3 just due to the higher cost. There are cheaper options than the ronstan swivel cleat of course. I assume Reacher has the coaming mounted lateral jam cleats on his CS-20 which we still prefer for the open Core Sounds (15, 17, 20) and the Lapwing because they are always right at hand when sailing hiked out and they are very cheap and effective. As always there are lots of ways to cleat a line.
  7. We've been using 3/8" line for the Core Sound 20 sheets for a long time now. The length we're using right now is 44 feet for the Core Sound 20 Mainsheet at 2:1. We have this line available if you'd like to buy from us. We have it in white and blue. Here is a LINK. You can see it in the top of this picture below. We like this line for sheets because it's light, floats and feels good in the hand. It's not a "high performance" line but still has a MWL of 2000lbs. It is a 6 strand single braid. We don't use any 3 strand lines in our line kits. For sheet length we use 10 degree of forward sprit rotation to size the sheet length. But for the CS-20 I like to make sure there is enough sheet that you can let out the sail all the way from one side only. So say your sailing upwind sheeted fully in then you bear off and want to let it all the way out. You don't want to have to let it out from both ends to achieve this because you'd have to reach down the lee side. So we take that into account with the sheet length of 44 feet. If you go with 4:1 you'd need about 90 foot sheet line on the CS-20 to have enough let it all the way out from one side. Of course this assumes that the sheet is mostly centered on the boat to start with. I like to keep a whipping on the center of the sheet line so I can monitor how far off center it is and in a tack i'll occasionally make an adjustment to the sheet to keep it close to equal on both sides. On the 20mk3 which has a 4:1 sheet the sheet ends are cleated on the thwart as opposed to the coaming so it's not as big a deal to let some our from the lee side and for that reason the 20mk3 sheet isn't as long only about 70 feet. As for purchase we use 4:1 on the Core Sound 20 Mk3 mainsheet. The 20mk3 main is about 10 sqft larger. I also used 2:1 on our Core Sound 20 and in high winds it is a bit of hard pull on the mainsheet but I always liked being able to sheet in and out really quickly so I lived with it. The 4:1 sheet in contrast is a lot of pulling and it doesn't ease out nearly as easily in light air. Here is how we have the 20mk3 sheet. What I would do if you want to be able to use 4:1 on your CS-20 occasionally is replace the mainsheet with a longer one that can handle 4:1 and add attachments for a second block on the end of the sprit as well as in the center of the thwart. You can then either use these extra blocks to run the sheet as 4:1 or 2:1 depending on conditions. You can make these snatch blocks (although these can be quite expensive) so that you can snap the mainsheet into them and have 4:1 very quickly on the water or go the cheap route and have to remove one end of the sheet from the cleat and re-reeve it through the center block and second sprit block to get 4:1. That wouldn't be too hard to do on the water while hove to. A way to reduce the sheet length is to attach the upper block to the sprit via a pennant line as seen below. For a 2:1 sheet this reduces the needed sheet length by twice the length of the pennant line. The downside is when you gibe the block swings across at head height so be careful. For a 4:1 setup you need a double block on the spirt as we show and this is why we don't show it on a pennant line. That thing is pretty heavy and we don't want one smacking someone on the side of the head. Hope this helps!
  8. Click here for a google maps with Graham's Track on it along with some of the geotagged photos from his trip. He is currently 20 NM from the shop headed south near Hobucken. Click here to see his Current spot track
  9. The latest on Graham in case you can't see the Google Doc Trip report... Copy pasted here. Day 14 (6/8)- Exploring Chincoteague Island.... With the boat on the hook just south of the bascule bridge at the north end of the island Graham plans to inflate his “kayak dinghy”. Graham decided not to take his nesting catspaw dinghy specially made for Carlita because he didn’t think he would need it very much and since he’d rather not tow it it would have to be on deck the whole time blocking visibility and raising his center of gravity. He searched for an inflatable row boat but then stumbled on the kayaks. He was very impressed with this one and the paddle came apart into 4 pieces. It tracks well and has decent stability. Graham commented that the material feels sturdy and many people have used this kayak for multi day trips. And, the whole kit stows in his cockpit locker! Below, Graham inflates the kayak for the first time at the shop before leaving (left). Shea (the dog) inspects the seams. Below right, Graham tests out the kayak in Chapel Creek. Here is a link to the kayak Graham is using. Note, this is an affiliate link. Day 15 (6/9)- Welcome to Maryland. Chincoteague to Ocean City (27 NM) Yesterday Graham hit up the island grocery store on Chincoteague and got some ice cream. When he got back to the boat he was high and dry with the tide down. This morning he got an early start on the tide and pushed on north under the bridge and into the Chincoteague Bay making about 4 knots and using the windvane. Graham crossed into Maryland this morning. He continued on another 27NM to Ocean City where he stopped briefly as a small thunderstorm passed. When he got back underway the crew at the shop watched him sail past Ocean City Inlet on a webcam looking east toward the inlet. We could make out the distinctive cat ketch rig and red hull. He made it to the Route 50 bridge but decided to wait until tomorrow to tackle Isle of Wight and Assawoman bay. Instead he pulled off at a dock and refilled his gas tanks and filled his cooler with ice which usually lasts him about 4 days or so. There are more webcams with good views of the bay to his North so if you’re following closely you should be able to see him! This webcam with a view to the west from the Aloft hotel should catch him sometime tomorrow morning as he sails through Isle of wight bay. Aloft hotel webcam. We might also catch him on the Route 90 bridge cam. Day 16 (6/10)- Assawoman Canal BLOCKED! This morning Graham was spotted going under the Route 90 bridge. Graham sent in this picture of him motoring under the Lighthouse road bridge. Little Assawoman bay ahead. At this rate he may make it to the Assawoman canal today. 3pm update: Graham made it to the canal proper and called to say he’s blocked! Just past the Kent Avenue Bridge at the start of the Assawoman canal a fairly large tree is completely blocking the way. Graham has already made friends with some locals and I suspect he’ll have more help than he knows what to do with very soon. 8pm Update. Graham sent this picture. “First Cut”. Unsurprisingly, Graham isn’t about to let some wood stop him. Day 17 (6/11)- Unblocked! And waiting for favorable wind. In the morning this picture was sent in by Nadena Ament of Graham in front of the cleared tree Nadena lent Graham “all of her saws” and he found a capable one to make 2 cuts in the tree. Thank you Nadena! Graham then removed the log to clear the way. Below, a happy Graham on the North side of the obstruction. The canal is VERY reminiscent of our Harlowe Canal here on Clubfoot creek just across the Neuse River. Graham motored the rest of the canal after finishing with the tree and anchored in White Creek. He mentioned that his wind indicator suffered some minor damage during the lowering of his main mast and he was making a small repair to it. With the Assawoman Canal now in his wake but strong headwinds ahead Graham opted to spend the rest of the day on the hook in White Creek just on the north end of the canal. He is in the area of Ocean View Delaware. Graham sent in a video of the boat under windvane control in light wind in the Upper Chincoteague bay. The boat looks to be tracking very straight while Graham rests in the cabin monitoring. Click here to see the video. Day 18 (6/12)- Positioning for the Delaware Bay (15 NM) Graham is just 15.5 NM from the Delaware Bay. Once he enters the Delaware Bay it’s a 50 NM sail to the Chesapeake and Delaware Canal which he will use to cut across the top of the Delmarva peninsula and begin the second half of his circumnavigation. There Are still strong North East winds today with South East and South winds for the next 2 days after. Graham indicated this morning that his plan today is to move as far North as he can, which is about 15 NM away from the inlet at Lewes Beach. He’ll anchor there tonight and then do the Delaware Bay when the wind turns south again. Raising anchor: Graham mentioned the other day that he’s been able to do all of the foredeck work from either the forward hatch or the cockpit. He has led his anchor line back to the cockpit so he can drop and raise the hook without having to duck below and pop out of the fore hatch which is very nice on wet and rainy days so he doesn’t track water into the cabin. Below, Graham demonstrates the forward hatch on Carlita. Evening update: Graham made it as far as the US-9 Bridge which only opens once per day. He was able to call up the bridge operator and learned that it had just changed hands and was under new management starting TOMORROW. So Graham was put in touch with the new operator and they decided on 7am for an opening in the morning. Graham anchor in the canal for the night. Day 19 (6/13) - Stretching his legs in the Delaware Bay (49 NM *as of 8pm) At 8pm Graham was just over 4 NM from the start of the C and D Canal having nearly completed the entire Delaware bay in a single day. This morning, Graham woke and started to get ready for the 7am bridge opening when he looked over to see the bridge OPENING! He called up the bridge tender and said what gives? But turns out he was just giving her a test run, it being his first day on the job. He opened again for Graham at 7am as planned and Graham was loose! Finally able to stretch his legs in the Bay. At first he had little wind but it picked up and Graham took full advantage today. Graham sent in this picture and caption no doubt looking east into the bay at the ship traffic coming down. “We have plenty of company going up the bay” I took the following screenshot from Marine traffic.com of the north end of the bay showing the train of boats coming down some pleasure craft but also large barges and ships.
  10. Graham sent in this picture with the caption...”Missed it by only that much. Just 200 feet to deep water.”
  11. I missed a few days but here is more copied over for those that haven't seen the latest. Day 6 (5/31) - Great Bridge Lock to Willoughby Bay (25 NM) Graham made good progress today into the Elizabeth River and past Norfolk finishing the day in the Hampton Roads area and anchoring in Willoughby bay. He has set himself up for crossing the Chesapeake Bay tomorrow to Cape Charles which is just over 24 NM straight across the bay. He has south east winds forecast switching to south west later in the day and should make good progress across with sunny weather and highs in the upper 60s. He reported his battery dipped to 79% with little sun the last couple of days. Day 7 (6/1)- Tues. June 1st - Made it to the Eastern Shore (24 NM) With an early start just before 7AM Graham set off north east and decided to head straight for Fisherman island which is the southern tip of the Delmarva Peninsula. Delmarva “,is a clipped compound of Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia” quoting good old wikipedia and the term was not in general use until the 1920’s but nonetheless Graham is now officially on the eastern shore of Virginia. Graham sent this picture approaching the northern span of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. Vertical clearance directly ahead is 40 feet. He had talked about trying to gunkhole his way through a creek to get to the east side of the peninsula from Cape Charles but he made straight for the southern tip and through the Virginia inside passage toward Magothy bay. Just after 1pm he’d made it almost into Magothy bay and stopped perhaps to eat some lunch. Below, A view from the south looking north from Fisherman Island into Magothy bay. Blue arrow is where Graham was at 1pm in the Virginia inside passage. Graham stopped at Skidmore Island but saw signs indicating he could not disturb the island to it being a wildlife sanctuary so he pressed on and anchored just south of the town of Oyster in about 4 feet of water on a hard bottom he reported. His battery was at 67.5% and he said it would be nice to have a separate solar panel which he could position in the cockpit while underway but he still has plenty of power for now. The area he is in has about 4 feet of tide. Graham also mentioned seeing a good friend Phil Garland who was moving a boat and tied up near Graham in the Great Bridge Lock. Phil is the owner of CS-17 ‘La Perla’ and has also raced in the Everglades Challenge. I will try to get some pictures from him. Day 8 (6/2)- Visiting the town of Oyster (6 NM) Graham made a short trip from his anchorage to the town of Oyster arriving just after noon and likely taking advantage of some down time to explore and recharge. Day 9 (6/3) - Oyster to Willis Wharf (21.5 NM) This morning Graham reported in and said he was going to head north and try to make it through the inside route and navigate some skinny water that is unmarked. His goal is to stay on the inside the whole way up the eastern shore without going outside. With a 4’ tide he believes he can wait out any shallow patches. A couple of pictures from Graham... Skidmore island Below: “Strip planked flair bow slowly returning to nature. Something a fiberglass boat cannot do.” Day 10 (6/4)- Hanging out at Willis Wharf (0 NM) Graham reported this morning that he was going to hang out for the day at Willis Wharf since the weather was a bit yucky and head further north tomorrow. Yesterday was a bit tough with a long open fetch despite the shallow water making for some chop and difficulty navigation. This morning it was still raining a bit on Graham but he planned to head into the Wharf and see what was there. Day 11 (6/5)- On the move North (18 NM) Graham ended up spending most of yesterday on the hook. He poked into Willis Wharf but didn’t tie up due to it being pretty small and not looking like there was much there so he pressed on to Wachapreague and stopped early as he was pretty tired. Day 12 (6/6)- Wachapreague to Wallops Island (19 NM) Heard from Graham around 1pm. He was hard aground at the time at the bottom of the tide but by the time we finished talking he was starting to ooch along in the shallow water. Further North Graham had to do some really narrow channels around Metompkin island as the main channel has been silted in. Below is a shot of the view in Navionics. The channel here is totally silted in. Fortunately in the satellite view of the same spot, there is another smaller channel that looks deep and that’s the way Graham ultimately was able to get through. So far there have been enough fishing channels through the inner part of the marsh to continue North unimpeded and Graham may now be through the trickiest parts. Mileage is not too accurate since I’m not measuring through every twist and turn that he’s actually sailing. Graham reported his battery power was up back in the 77% range for SOC which is good. His 50 watt solar panel seems to be enough for his light use (chart plotter, cabin lights, anchor light, phone charging and occasional nav light). Day 13 (6/7)- Wallops Island to..... Graham checked in this morning. He had a great time sailing through the narrow channels yesterday. At one point he was escorted by a little fishing boat who directed him on which channel to take to make it through. He’s also had a few encounters with boaters who said, it’s too shallow or you’ll never make it. (very helpful). The one boater even came back to check on Graham last night convinced that he must be in trouble in some way but Graham assured him he was doing just fine. He enjoyed seeing some great flight displays from some Black Skimmers yesterday. Doing their thing in the shallow water. (photo from ourstate.com) Today he will sail by Wallops island which is a Nasa launch facility. There might even be a rocket on the pad since they have a lunch scheduled for a week from tomorrow. Graham does not plan to stick around although he’ll probably still be able to see it from further north. Wallops Island launch facility.
  12. Day 5 - Arrived at Great Bridge Lock and met some friends (11.5NM) Graham made it to Great Bridge Lock today and was met up by Steve Early of Log of Spartina as well as our very own Amos Swogger, builder and owner of Core Sound 20 Mark 3 #11 ‘Larissa’ who both live near the area. Steve took some great (as usual) photos of Graham coming in. (photo: Steve Early) (photo: Steve Early) Below, Graham motors under Battlefield Blvd bridge on the ICW (photo: Steve Early) Graham headed West on the ICW in the Chesapeake Canal. Great Bridge Lock ahead. (photo: Steve Early) (photo: Steve Early) Amos and Graham Tie off Carlita just before Great Bridge Lock. (photo: Steve Early)
  13. Day 4 - Coinjock to North Landing RIver (27.2NM) Graham’s trek up the ICW continued with southerly winds that pushed him through Coinjock and past the Currituck Sound. A couple lines of thunderstorms swept through the area and around 3:30 Graham threw out the pick. I suspect the north winds arrived and he called it a day. That combined with the thunderstorms. Graham sent in this picture with the caption “second thunderstorm”. Graham reported earlier in the day that he was running with 2 reefs in the main and 1 in the mizzen. When asked about how his power system was holding up he said everything was working perfectly. He has on board a ~120Ah LiFePo4 battery which he is recharging from a 50watt solar panel using a Victron smart solar charge controller. A shunt monitors the battery state of charge. Graham reported that he battery is typically reading about 90% in the morning indicating that he is using about 9-10 Ah overnight running his anchor light, charging phone and running cabin lights and fan. He shouldn’t have too much trouble keeping up with that with his 50 watt panel.
  14. Amos, RIght on. I spoke with him earlier today and he said it got pretty sporty running wing and wing toward the entrance to the North River and he let his halyards go a bit and just let the sails slide down to reduce sail as it was too lumpy to reef properly and he was so close to being in the more sheltered river. He's been making great progress today with 2 reefs in the main and 1 in the mizzen earlier through Coinjock and he's trying to make as much progress toward the Chesapeake canal before the wind goes north. Even though this is a pleasure cruise it always feels like we're racing something
  15. Amos, I'll be sure to let him know. He did not take a laptop on the trip so I don't know how much forum reading he will do. He called me today and I hope to get daily reports. Coped from the Log I've been keeping for him.... Day 2 - Pungo River to The Frying Pan (31nm) Graham got underway from the Pungo RIver at about 8am and looks to be either motoring or sailing through the alligator river canal. At 2pm Graham reported that the winds were light and he’d been motoring along. He had a hard time starting the outboard until he remembered Chick’s trick to blow into the gas tank. He said she started on the second pull after performing this mouth watering trick. He stopped to refuel just past the bend in the pungo canal. He hoped to make it across the Albermarle sound before the wind shifts to the north which shouldn’t be for another 36 hours at least. He pulled into The Frying Pan for the evening. Steve Early was just there recently and wrote about it in his blog. He’ll be looking to tuck in from the southerly winds. Tomorrow he should have a good push from behind to cross the Albemarle. First he’ll have to pass through the Alligator River Bridge with a height of just 14 feet he’ll have to call in for an opening.
  16. Avery, I think you might glimpse Graham very soon. I believe he will be around Belhaven area before dark.
  17. Graham has officially left on his trip. I will be updating this document as I get reports from him.
  18. Graham might have taken his upgrades a bit too far this time. What do you think? He's installed a big barn door rudder too and a giant boom..... Ok maybe I had you going? We all know Graham is a tiller man. Someone who thinks he's funny plopped this in Carlita's cockpit. Graham looked pretty worried when he came in last week and we told him we had "done some work on his boat".
  19. Do you have insurance on your kit boat? Who did you use? Do they know you built it yourself? If they did would they still insure it? I got a call the other day from a builder asking if we had a recommendation for an insurance company after they were told that GEICO is no loner offering insurance for homemade kit boats. I thought this would be a topic others might have some helpful insight on.
  20. FOR SALE. The owner and builder of Jessy 17 Hull #1 is selling his boat! Recently worked on at B&B after being stored for a couple of years she has new Starboard rubrails, paint touch up etc and is ready to hit the water immediately. Engine serviced. Practically a brand new Yahama 50HT outboard with less than 20 hours on it. Great for fishing the sounds or running out to Cape Lookout or the sandbar. Easy to trailer with seating for 4 plus a fishing seat pedestal. Come check her out anytime. Price $18,500. Link to Ad on Facebook Marketplace https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1754469404733188/ INFO: 1. 1- GARMIN ECHO MAP 44 DV Bluetooth GPS/ Sonar/Fish Finder 2. 2- sets Boat Keys 3. 2- Center Console Pads 4. Boat interior Black Floor Mats 5. 1- West Marine VHF 480 Class "D" DSC Marine Radio with Antenna 6. 1- YAMAHA Propeller 7. 1- Fire Extinquisher 8. 1- Boat Cover 9. 1-Bimini top with hardware attached to boat 10. 1- PRIVATE TRAILER EZLO SERIES Purchased from Pamlico Marine & Sports, New Bern, NC 11. 1-YAMAHA 50 HP MOTOR 2017 MODEL Motor purchased and maintained with yearly checks by; MOBILE EAST MARINE More pictures here: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNmpzOgEhCSieNPElUgry6lFKFKu2VgHCQPe5EeMxTHMbGADysAeSIMZIYWsw3sCw?key=em0yQlpZOGlHWUN2UUNmZEpkRzduaFlObUxSelJ3
  21. Thanks for the great video I especially like the drone shots and it serves as a great trip report. You guys did an awesome job in some tough conditions. It sounds like getting into flamingo this year for many was a real challenge. I agree with Graham and Peter here on the topping lift regarding main reefing and I think also the dodger was a big contributor to slowing the boat down especially sailing into the stronger winds. That thing is just a sail pushing you backward all the time and the problem goes up be the square of the wind speed! Sailing in the dark also makes it a lot harder to see what the sails are doing which makes it a lot harder to feel the boat and react to shifts and I find that I pinch and even get into irons more often in the dark for sure. It seems like you were also a victim of the current we have observed once you round the east cape headed to flamingo as Graham alluded to. Sailing into current in the dark through a channel with unlit markers is very very VERY difficult and requires a skipper to have perfect reactions to all inputs from the boat and a really good crew communicating to them or a really good gps setup so they can monitor their progress. When the channel is 3-5 boat lengths wide it's actually a bit easier I think and the spotlight is the weapon of choice. Anyway, great job guys. From what I can see of the reef in the main the snotter just need to be let our more extending the sprit forward so that that the mainsheet attachment is closer to the leech and the clew is held down to the sprit, this also relieves the pressure on the foot of the sail in the reefed portion. Just another comment, I've never sailed with 1 reef in the main and 2 in the mizzen. Always reef main first and un-reef it last. Just like I always raise the mizzen sail first and the main second. and strike the main first. Otherwise the boat can get away from you pretty easily if the mainsheet hangs up on something in the cockpit and comes tight which is pretty easy to happen when first hoisting the sail and it's flogging in the wind. Having a quick disconnect on the mainsheet helps this so you can leave the sails free (with no sheet attached) until you're ready to pull away. I've got it set that way on my CS17 since the sails furl around the masts and the sheets need to come off easily for reefing. Another comment on having difficulty sailing upwind in strong winds. I have personally found over my many trips on the course that my rudder (and I assume centerboard) foul with floating debris mostly sea grass constantly especially in heavy wind years. After clearing it I'm always amazed what a difference it makes. I'm talking like going 4.5konts on one tack then clear the weeds and now easily making 6 knots. Not saying this happened to you but it's possible. It's just something I've gotten used to and I've found it to be the most prevalent in Florida bay. When we've sailed the southern route of Florida bay I got into the habit of just kicking my rudder up and then back down (a quick pull-pull on the up, downhaul to flip it out of the water) on EVERY TACK to clear the seagrass. When timed right there is no pressure on the rudder and it's a half second maneuver. Usually I look back to see a big old pile of sea grass floating behind the boat after this maneuver. Every 30 min or so I would also raise the board and let it back down fully to clear anything that may be on the board during the tack.
  22. I dont think I could wait around eating at a reataurant along the way when nothing holds a candle to a fried fish basket and a beer at Mrs. Macs at the finish line!
  23. Thanks everyone. Mama and Henry are doing great. Very difficult delivery ending in c section but it's all over now. He is perfect.
  24. Joe, I txted race mom Paula and she told me Whitebeard had dropped out, no details given.
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