Hirilonde
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15 minutes ago, Don Silsbe said:
@Hirilonde— I’m currently refurbishing a boat for a friend that did not use epoxy as a sealer, I think I caught it in time, however. Your treatment on the grips is interesting. I might have to try that. So far, I’ve not treated them with anything except the “oils” from my hands.
It isn't really needed if the oars are stored indoors or under cover. But letting a little oil soak in once in a while can only be positive. And you still have the non-skid of natural wood.
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My oars are varnished, except for the grips which have as coat of boiled linseed oil diluted 50% with turpentine. My buttons are teak and eopoxied on and the leathers are sewn over 4 coats of varnish. I am up to 6 coats on all exposed wood cept the grips.
What is the damage and what caused it? Do you have leathers to protect the loom from wear at the rowlocks? 7 feet sounds about right for a Spindrift 11. I use 6'5" for my Spindrift 9 and think it is perfect. It is my 3rd pair of oars and the length is based on how the previous 2 pairs felt.
edit: I don't ever use epoxy for waterproofing on solid wood.
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It is simply discoloration. If it were under paint you would never know or care. I have no idea why it appeared after 2 years, and if it was UV damage, how it got through so much varnish. I do know, that if there were no epoxy it would not have happened. And if varnish discolored, I could easily remove it.
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Bristol Finish is as hard to repair as epoxy resin when either it discolors, or physical damage is done.
Here is a picture of my transom. It has 3 coats of epoxy and many, many coats of real varnish. The blotches showed up at around 2 years. At that point I had close to 20 coats of varnish. I tried sanding down and hoping the yellowing was in one of the varnish layers, but it was not. I decided to leave it alone. trying to sand through 2 years cured epoxy and not go through the Sapele vener of the transom seemed way too risky. It hasn't gotten any worse, this picture is today. Varnish can be removed with a heat gun and a semi sharp scraper down to the wood easily and safely. 2 part anything is another story. For painted surfaces there is no real issue. Epoxy filler can repair all damage. But when it is supposed to stay bright, it is a different issue.
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She got better in the second video. Her recovery in the first video was higher than needed.
Yeah, I would enjoy the glide of either boat.
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Owning a real rowing boat would be nice, but not practical due to storage restrictions. In the end, it wouldn't give me any more excercise than I get now. I would like a better glide, the Spindrift slows down quickly after each stroke. Going faster, gliding faster would mean I would need a longer route to get the same work out. It would be fun though to build a mini Whitehall or a Wherry. I just think they are gorgeous.
BTW Don, your videos don't work for me.
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The lathe idea sounds cool, though I never epoxied my masts, or any other solid wood that would be varnished.
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7 hours ago, dwg2116 said:
What it means is that you have reached the rowing potential of your 9 and you need an 11.Ha ha, another boat.
I am quite sure it is mostly a matter of getting stronger. I learned to row well at 12 years at Boy Scout Camp. I took rowing merit badge that summer and my instructor was a varsity member of the Brown crew team. I have been rowing with a proper feathered stroke ever since.
In all seriousness,I consider rowing my Spindrift in a similar manner to riding my steel frame bicycle. Getting a faster one isn't going to be more excercise. And then I have to lug a heavier boat across the street to go rowing.
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For the past more then a year, excluding summer, when I go to the gym, I have been rowing my Spindrift 9 for excercise. The course I row is 1.5nm around a man made pond/puddle. I have gone from 38 minutes to 25 as of this morning. When I do the math I discover that I keep a pace of 3.6 kts. for almost a half hour. I estimate the hull speed of a Spindrift 9 to be 3.6 kts. as well. Dunno what this means, if it is any good, but I find it interesting.
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I did what Scott said.
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A few years ago I was talking to Graham at the Woodenboat Show at Mystic Seaport. I was metioning that I might want lighter masts down the road and he suggested an option. A thin wall birdsmouth mast covered with a carbon sleeve/epoxy. Dunno that it will ever happen. I hate sloppy/messy work. I like wood.
Nice kayaks.
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You can't accelerate with a skinny blade as quickly, but as you get older especially, the lessened impact of a thin blade entering the water is appreciated. I also find I can keep a pace longer. And since you paddle closer to the boat, there is less force wasted on turning the boat like the side stroke of a Euro paddle. If you can master the sliding stroke, it gets really efficient.
I haven't paddled in a while, too busy rowing these days.
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14 hours ago, Kennneee said:
Planing ATC is a true pleasure (assuming you are a wood nerd). Planes like butter.
That is an understatement. I have made West Greenland style kayak paddles and oars out of ALC and it works great with a draw knife as well.
Looking good.
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I used 3/4" #8 316 stainless pan head screws, drilled pilot holes and bedded the hardware base in BoatLife LifeCaulk. My sail track is bronze, and I bedded the fasteners which are 5/8" #6 316 stainless pan head screws. The only blocking in my masts are the first 4" of the head. Douglas Fir and Alaskan Yellow Cedar both hold fasteners well if you drill the correct size pilot hole. The hole should be the same diameter as the screw shaft, not inlcuding the threads or just a tad smaller in softer woods. For ALC I would err on the slightly smaller side. The screws I used are called self tappers, they have a sharp course thread. FYI, bronze and stainless are really close on the galvanic scale and can be used together.
I think many people underestimate the holding power of screws properly secured. Just like prep is the key to a great pain job, properly sized and located pilot holes make all the difference. My gudgeons are screwed on
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Steve brings up some important stuff concerning size. My 9N fits in the bed of my small footprint pickup (Tacoma) with the tail gate closed and it fits assembled between the wheels with the tail gate open and it sticking out a tad past it.
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What ever people decide to fabricate keep in mind it needs to be closed or closeable forward, and can be open aft. Your boat points into the wind at anchor.
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I can still step my DF masts, but it is getting to be less fun. I am considering a tabernacle for the main. The mizzen is easy to step as you don't lean over the fore deck trying to insert the foot of the mast. The masts can be a support for a tarp wether on insterted carrying brackets or tabernacle. The only down side to a main tabernacle is that the mast will extend a couple feet past the transom while trailering. I would have to make the hinge pin easy to remove as my boat won't fit in the garage if anything extends beyond the trailer hitch or transom.
@Murray Sprits used to bother me before I tried them. The minimal loss due to sail shape doesn't bother me any more. I find the advantages out weigh the head clunker and extra lines. I figured I would try them first, and convert to wishbooms or conventional booms latter.
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Bigger is better, until it is a tender. I once had 4 medium/smaill adults and some stuff for a row out to the mooring. I felt safe, but rowing that deep in the water was a bit of a chore. My crusing boat was 27'. I could fit the Spindrift nested on the fore deck inverted and tack no problem. I used a high cut clew 135% genoa there were no fouling issues. But after proving it worked, I never did it again. For coastal cruising, among islands and such, towing is just so much less work. I stowed the spars, board, rudder and sail aboard when towing. The longest mast section for a 9 is 6'. If I were doing this all again, knowing what I know now from experience, I would build a standard 10.
Now if you are building a small sailboat to go sailing in, the 12 sure is bigger.
Damned because it's all related.
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It sounds like a Spindrift might foot the bill, especially if it may become a tender to a cruising boat.
I would not build a nesting version unless storage is a real issue. Whether that is nested storage on deck of the cruiser, or in the garage/shed/wherever. The layout of the original version is much better. A Spindrift tows extremely well. I would put a few pounds, some times a bag of garbage, in the stern to get it to squat a little while towing. Otherwise it would try to pass my Renegade in a following sea.
My Spindrift 9N was a tender for 8 years or so, and now it is my excercise rowboat. 17 years and counting.
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The mizzen. It shows the snotter, halyard and downhaul as I leave them, ready for the next launch.
The snotter block on the main.
This shows the halyard block on the mizzen, as well as the pennant and halyard block.
A different angle of the previous.
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As to pictures of my masts, let me know what detail(s) you are looking for. I used the block B&B sells. As the main halyard leads from the base of the mast to the port side deck and aft, and because the mast rotates, I didn't think a shieve leading the halyard fore of the mast could handle all the angles leading aft.
There is an outdoor lumber yard, as in it sells outdoor lumber, that was 10 minutes from my house when I built. That had gorgeous Douglas Fir and Alaskan Yellow Cedar. They probably still do. My DF spars look and work just fine. But I do regret not paying the extra for ALC. Your birdsmouth sampler looks right on. The fun parts are tapering the staves and then the epoxy goo/assembly. Wear clothes you should have thrown away long before, you may wear it well. I built 2 cradles to hold the pieces while I assembled. They were concave half rounds just over 3" d. and attached to saw horses. Getting the last 2 staves in place is definitely amusing.
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I tackled the masts first while waiting for my plywood order. It is a tedious job and I was glad I did it early. I wish I had used AYC instead of Douglas Fir for my masts. It is a little lighter and still fabulous in all the characteristics needed. I balked at the price. Though I bet you can get it a lot cheaper than I did.
Is B&B making all the planks for you? Spiling and fitting the planks was probably the most time consuming part of the build.
I think the Lapwing is the perfect daysailor. It is less than 16 feet and still carries 4 in luxury. On a trailer it is 19'8", so it fits nicely in a 20' garage. It is quite stiff, hence forgiving, yet still performs well when the wind picks up. I have had mine planing several times, it is exciting.
FYI, there is no such thing as too many boats.
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Compared to stitch'n'glue the Lapwing sure is a tedious hull to build. The effort will be worth it when painted. I don't know that the false stem adds any real stiffness to the hull, but it is a bumper, especially if a metal chafe strip extends from the bottom up the curve of the stem. Just make sure to form the bend before you drill the screw holes, to maintain a nice fair curve.
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