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  1. The only time I thin varnish is when I do the first coat, and it is on bare wood. This is to get the first coat to penetrate the wood a little better.  And then I only thin 10-15%. Over epoxy I do not thin at all.  And when I do thin I use pure gum turpentine. Even in Florida I wait over night to sand a coat.


    I find on vertical surfaces I have to work the varnish to a complete but thin coat and then slowly feather out the finish. There is a knack to this that I can't really describe.  And even then, I always find a drool or two.


    On a side note: a varnish brush can be stored in turpentine for many months. The solids won't come out of solution like they do when the brush is left in mineral spirits.

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  2. 23 minutes ago, Peter HK said:

    With scarfs the longer the better.

    Usual minimum recommendation is 8 to 1, though some advise 12 to 1.

    I’ve used 8 to 1 with no problems in the past.


    I used 8:1 for the staves of my birdsmouth masts and the 5 pieces that make up each rub rail, for many stringers on SoF kayaks and umpteen other applications and no issues.

  3. 6 hours ago, Thrillsbe said:

    In the past, I’ve used vinegar.  But the word on the street is that it also allows some penetration.  Waterless hand cleaner is the safest, and is readily available.

    This is the latest and best information from a reliable source. So until something else is proven better..........................


    On a side note, some citrus hand cleaners have skin softeners in them.  If anyone needs that it is people who handle the stuff we do.

  4. 4 hours ago, Steve W said:

    . As for the keel, both Skeena and Suzy J have White Oak keels. Tough as nails, closed cell wood great for this application. The rub is that being closed cell they don't glue great, 

    If it is dry, and the mating surfaces are scuffed and cleaned, epoxy will glue it just fine. Teak and White Oak have bad names because they require a little attention and some don't give it. So we all get to listen about their failures without knowing the whole story. Just like everything, it is in the prep.

  5. 6 hours ago, PiedTyper said:

    I hadn't thought about how the poplar would react to abrasion in an application like the keel.  I can definitely appreciate the advantage of something like a long grain pine in that application.  I will definitely look into a more hard wearing lumber for those sorts of pieces.  


    The keels on both my Spindrift and Lapwing have bronze solid half round chafe strip the entire length.  It is amazing how little damage is done to a boat with just this precaution.  SS hallow half round works well too.  Then it almost doesn't matter what you use so long as it hold fasteners well.  Poplar does.

  6. Varnish and Urethanes are 2 entirely different animals.  One is an oil based product, the other is a plastic. There is no such thing as a urethane varnish.  Like so many words in the English language the word varnish has been misused to mean any clear coating. As oil based paints have been proven to work well for these boats I would suggest real varnish.  It will however add an amber translucent color.


  7. I really like the detail of the sides of the raised deck/cabin on Southern Express.  It makes the boat look leaner.  Was that before they raised the cabin top?  Anyway, I think it is the white above the blue that just makes all the difference.


    Commissioning a boat, if you can find a trustworthy builder who doesn't have to make a living building boats. I decided that if I were ever to build a Lapwing for someone I would have to get at least $35,000 (complete on trailer)  And even then I wouldn't get rich.  There are people how ever who enjoy it so much that they would build for a modest fee.  Good luck with finding a solution.  They are great boats.

  8. AYC is beautiful wood.  It shape well also. It is almost as nice for oars and spars as Sitka. My Lapwing oars are AYC. Flipping a Lapwing, especially at this point is so easy. No reason not to do so and put in the inwales.


    The Lapwing is one boat where the hull is a lot of the work.  You are further along than it seems.

  9. I bet all would work.  You may need to do a little culling of the pile to find the right board, and may have to buy a bigger piece than you need so you can cut out the good part. Can you get Douglas Fir?  I know first hand that it works well.


    On a side note, the lumber marking of SPF has always made me laugh.  I never heard of a Spruce Pine Fir tree. It actually means that you don't know which you got as all were considered acceptable for the structural rating it was given.

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