Frank Hagan
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By the way I tried to register but it wont accept my email address.
I have a message in on the support forum about this. I think it is choking on the ampersand in the email address' date=' which it shouldn't do as its "legal" in an email address (but in the programming language this forum is written in, an ampersand is a command). So I'll let you know when I hear from them![/quote']
I have the updated code installed, so you should be able to register now. Sorry about that! Software. :roll:
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Frank' date=' At the top of your last post you show the date/time as "Weds Jan 29 2003 11:36am" Still showing a +7 at the bottom of the thread. :roll:[/quote']
Check your profile ... there's a setting for GMT time offset. Yours must be set to GMT +7. Mine was set to GMT -8, which "stuck" that way even when I changed the forum's internal time to GMT -5. I now have both the internal setting at GMT -5 and my Profile setting to GMT -5, so it makes a lot more sense.
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Frank' date=' at the time you made your last post you had the time set up as +7, not -8. Yes the time should be set to -5 hrs.[/quote']
Well, its now set for GMT -5 in my main configuration screen, but I see on the bottom of the page it is still recorded as GMT -8. I'm thinking there might be another configuration item somewhere, but I'll have to find it after I get home tomorrow.
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Bill is correct. East coast US is GMT -5 hours.
OK, I have it GMT -8 hours right now; I'll change it to -5 because the server is in the eastern time zone of the US. That will help me coordinate any error messages with the updates from my host (slammer worms, indeed).
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I noticed the books section isn't up yet. Not to worry. I am just finishing up "A Unit of Water' date=' A Unit of Time" -- Joel White's Last Boat by Douglas Whynott (ISBN 0-671-78526-5) Good book, (I'm Bias being from Maine) Anyone else give it a read? I'll put up a review, when we get things going! Just a thought!
Bill[/quote']
I have to get the books section back up, but I let it wait until after this trip. Joel White certainly gets my vote for anything he writes.
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Frank' date=' the sun comes up in the east so it should be GMT minus seven hours. In other words, it is yet to come.
You have set up a positive number which would have the sun coming up in the west. I would get up from bed now but haven't been there yet. Getting as confused as Jake.[/quote']I reallly have to quit hanging out with these sales guys. There is no way I can function like a kid anymore. Where's Konrad; he can still do this stuff. (OK, I thought my limit was one cigar and two scotches, and now I'm thinking it one cigar and ONE scotch, or maybe less pizza or something.)
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The "/" is used only on the closing tag:
[url]the url goes here[/url]
You can also click on the button marked "URL" and it will put the opening tag in, you type in the URL, and click "Close Tags" to have the closing tags applied. Or you can type the URL, highlight it, and then click the button URL and it will apply the URL tags on beginning and end.
Just don't ask me how to click and select when you don't have a mouse, and you're on a Mac!
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My fault, I think. I can't remember the + / - sign thing with the GMT.
Atlanta (where the server is) is in the Eastern time zone of the US. What is the offset to GMT? I think it is -7 hours. Pacific time is -10 hours. Right?
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What Russ said! :!:
He pretty much nailed it.
One other thing you have to realize is that often the most vocal critics are those that have no real life experience with the boat. Others, who have owned the boat, or at least sailed it, may have criticisms that may or may not matter to what you are looking for.
There are easier boats to build, and there are boats that are harder to build but look better. I'm not sure there's another boat as nice looking that is as easy to build as the Weekender. The Weekender puts a nice salty looking boat, that sails well and safely, within the grasp of the average woodworker or handyman. And the owners seem to like them.
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By the way I tried to register but it wont accept my email address.
I have a message in on the support forum about this. I think it is choking on the ampersand in the email address, which it shouldn't do as its "legal" in an email address (but in the programming language this forum is written in, an ampersand is a command). So I'll let you know when I hear from them!
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Mark' date=' If you ignore the fact that the ballast in one instance is water and just locate the CG and GB where they need to be for the two cases you show, the difference in form stability should be clearer. :idea:[/quote']
Hi Tom ... if this is the same Tom L (of Bluejacket 24 fame), can you check out the article on http://www.messing-about.com/smallboats on the Bluejacket 24 for any corrections? In moving it, I edited a few things slightly, thinking I remembered some comments from prior discussions. There is a broken link to the review of the plans I already know about (will get to that when I get back in town).
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Konrad, didn't you have the "compression cracks" on the keel when you tightened down the straps holding the boat to the trailer? I may have you confused with someone else, but I thought that was you ... it was one reason I'm not a fan of glassing the keel, especially if you've used green wood, as it will shrink as it dries, leaving voids and susceptibility to that kind of cracking.
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Frank' date=' now you really have me curious. What's the relationship between using a laptop (thus no mouse) and driving a Saturn? I like them but we don't live near a Saturn dealer and so drive a Toyota Sienna and elderly grey Olds sedan (we call it the middle-aged lady car after one of my daughters-in-law said "Oh, that suits you." Never been so insulted, etc.).[/quote']
I thought maybe you belonged to a strange cult that eschewed mouses (mice?) on computers. And I've always suspected Saturn drivers as being part of a weird cult (have a couple of them working for me.) So I was just testing a theory.
BTW, my wife drives a Toyota Sienna, which she loves.I'm actually working on a borrowed laptop right now that has one of those touchpad things, which I don't like very much. When I was doing a lot of traveling I had one like this also, but it made sense on an airplane (before they changed the pitch between the seats, you could put a laptop on the folded down tray, but didn't have room for the mouse).
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Thanks Frank' date=' I'm just messing with you. We MACians are used to translation. But we don't have a mouse either. Will apply your suggestions and try to find a cute little pic. I want one, I want one.
[/quote']No mouse? You don't drive a Saturn do you, Johannah?
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If anyone talks to my wife, let her know I'm still cold. Very cold.
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Beside marriage' date=' there is no better example of the art of compromise than boat design.
Graham[/quote']
Now THAT is a quotable quote! Mind if I steal it for a while? (Hope I have your name spelled right).
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I hate all these guys, but: Raiders. By more than the 3 pts I heard was the last spread.
(While everyone else is watching the game, I will be in my hotel room catching up on sleep. I am way too old to spend half the night smoking cigars and drinking scotch with a bunch of other middle aged men, telling stories about our wild youth.)
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I'm in Chicago, which is much colder than Southern California is right now, and I just noticed there is actually frost on the bottom of the window sill. On the inside.
That's it. I'm burning the hotel furniture for warmth.
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Hey Frank' date=' Would it be difficult to increase the scroll box contrast in the right hand side?
I can barely distinguish it from the shaft with my laptop.[/quote']
Funny you should mention that ... I think that's the routine that is confusing Netscape. I suspect you're using IE, right? The light scroll bar is a function that applies only to IE, so I'm thinking of scrapping it when I get back into town.
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OK here i am trying to deside what wood to use for the keel' date=' and have run into a quandry, the plans say pine, fir, or other wood, I love fir but clear fir is like gold along with clear pine. So I thought why not use 2x? and surface it down with a planer, {too much of the New Yankee Workshop}, but then I relised that most 2x? is green wood and would need to air dry, so again I thinks what about reclaimed wood, it is older and more stable, (just make sure you get all of the old nails, screws, ect out of it). Another thought I had was what about voids useing the S4S that is on the shelf, OK back to the planer and a smooth surface, so what way do I go I love collecting toys (tools)
John[/quote']
John, I had 2x douglas fir No.2 or better resawn to make my keel 1x's ... I detail it on my site at http://users2.ev1.net/~fshagan/weekender.htm
I wouldn't recommend going that route because resawing causes differences in thicknesses between the boards, so you have a lot of finishing work to do. But feeding a 2 x 12 x 14 through a planer does make sense.
The keel doesn't really need clear wood. No. 2 or better is fine ... its a 3 lamination construction, so even if you have a knot fall out, just fill it in with epoxy and you're set.
With either resawn or planed 2x material, you are right, it does have some moisture content left (even if it says "kiln dried"). You have two choices, you can either sticker it and allow it to air dry some more, or do what I did .... glue it up within a day of having it resawn. Flip the boards during lofting so that the growth rings go opposite directions, cut them out, and glue them up right away. The extremely wide glue line from this lamination should serve to keep the keel from cupping. Mine came out flat, just by laying on the garage floor after glue up. One builder has a keel that has a curve in it ... 1/2" or something like that ... and no one can tell while sailing it that its there.
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Hey! Don't say that! I was feeling really smart for "figuring out" what you were doing.
(I learn by doing, and you guys keep forgetting I've had this software for a month, so I've already DONE all these things.)
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Thanks Frank' date=' but it's hard to "right-click" on a Mac.
[/quote']Oops. :oops:
Try this:
In your browser, position the mouse over the the image that you would like to copy.
Click and hold down the mouse button. A floating menu will appear. Select Save Image As from the floating menu. The standard Mac dialog box will appear.
Select your working folder.
Select the Save button. The image will be saved into the working folder.
I think that still works; got it from a clip art site a while back.
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I think you're probably hitting the "back" button on your browser, right? Just scroll down and click on "submit" after editing. If you hit the "back" button it reloads the page, so it will come up blank.
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Mast alternatives for the Weekender
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I have to be honest ... even though I spent a lot of time making a lighter weight mast, I just don't think reducing weight in a mast that's just 12' above the water level is that important on a gaffer this size. There are so many other things that could provide a performance boost, such as a larger headsail. So I don't think there's really a performance edge with a lighter mast.
The concern with stability is probably misplaced too; I don't think the weight of the mast matters too much with the Weekender. The boat doesn't tip over easily in wind ... the cases we've heard about have been from accidental gybes that gain their power not from the weight of the mast, but the force of the sail full of air suddenly being stopped by the boom stopping after its swung over to the other side. In that circumstance, it doesn't matter how heavy the mast is, the momentum of that boom swinging over will tip you over quickly. I don't think the mast, per se, has much to do with the stability issue.
On larger gaffers they do recommend trying to lighten the weight of the gaff itself, but keep the boom heavy. The gaff on the Weekender is so light I can't see much advantage in using aluminum or a lighter material ... a 1 1/2" closet pole less than 6' long just doesn't weigh too much.
All the work I did wasn't exactly wasted, becuase I like the look of my mast. And I enjoyed making it. But from a practical standpoint, I don't think my hollow bird's mouth mast is any better from a performance or stability standpoint than the standard tapered 4 x 4 mast.