Kudzu

I live and boat on the Tennessee River and assuming we have similar conditions a danforth works extremely well in all but rock bottoms. And there is not many places with a rock bottom. I carried my anchor on a CAL 21 and it worked perfectly. I went one size larger than suggested. Had it to do over I would go with the recommended size. Reason being, hauling in a heavy anchor gets old. You tend not to want to use it. Worse you don't pull it out when you should. So buy the right size and the lightest weight model. Danforth has three models. The higher priced ones have the same holding power as the cheaper ones. But are much lighter and smaller. MAtter of fact they look to small. In my opinion next to life jackets, the anchor is you most important safety device on board. It has saved me boat damage and embarrassment more than once! BTW, since I sold my sailboat I use the same danforth anchor in my 21' Cris Craft Sea Skiff. With a 180 HP inboard I tried once to see how well it would hold. I can't pull it out once it sets. It has amazing holding power. I was afraid I would break the rope before the anchor would let go. By the same token I have never had any problem pulling it out of the bottom either.

I have looked ever page I can find on the Core Sound boats. One thing I notice in the costruction photos that puzzles me. In each boat it appears that some of the framing/reinforcement/ect are built of regular framing lumber. Like yellow pine. Of course it's hard to tell for sure what I looking at in the photos. But is that right? Yellow pine just seems like a bad choice in a boat even if it is encapsulated in epoxy. I would just order the plans but what with building this new house and work I have no time to really look at them. And they would get lost before I get in the new house. So I want to wait till we move out of this small space and I actually have a shop!

I have been looking for a canoe for a while now. (still going to build a CS-20) I built DK-13 kayak several years ago and fished out of it some. But it was just to small. I couldn't move my legs and they eventually would cramp up. I have been looking at Kayaks but I think I canoe would be easier to fish out of. I want something I can stick on the top of my truck and drop in a creek or small lake by myself. I have been looking at the Flyfisher. Has by chance anyone built or seen one? I have also been looking at some lapstrake canoes and must admit I like the looks of them better. Flyfisher looks a lot like a, gulp .... fiberglass boat (shudder ).

Have not tried tonight but had lots of off an on luck the past few days. Edit: I tried again this morning and still can't get there. So it must be down.

What impresses me the most is that the Daughters will never forget this trip! The smiles in the photos prove it! I grew up on the river boating and never lost my love for the water.

I noticed that B&B has a version of the CS17(?) or is it the 20? Anyway they have a version with a cabin now. I looked at it but I don't want a cabin. It's 19' and here is the link http://www.bandbyachtdesigns.com/bel.htm

Oyster, I am not boatless..... well close but not quite. I have a 1962 Cris Craft Sea Skiff that I simple adore! She has sprung a severe leak and once the house gets done I will repair the hull, repaint her and be back on the water. I made a mistake when I sold one lake house and moved her to the new boathouse at the other house. Instead of hanging her by the lifting eyes like I did previously. I decided to build a cradle in the existing lift and lift/store her on that. It was easier than tearing out the old one and starting over. I lived to regret that choice! The hull distorted some and she split open a seam. So I will just be without a sailboat for the summer, not entirely boat-less. And living just 5 minutes from the water you can bet I will have a boat this summer! Here is Makin Waves about 2 years after my restoration. She is in need of a face lift now but is still in good shape. Can you see how many people we have onboard? Thats why I love this boat. She does need a set of hydraulic trim tabs with that many people onboard.

WONDERFUL idea! I am contemplating and about decided on a CS-20 and I think that this is a wonderful idea. As the old saying goes. A picture is worth a thousand words!

I greatly appreciate the input. Nothing anyone said surprised me. I will probably stick with the CS-20 for now. It is extremely close to what I was looking for after I sold my boat. My wife asked me why I wanted another boat with a cabin and it was hard to answer. Don't you hate it when your wife does that? As much as I would enjoy just puttering around in the boat I would actually use the cabin very little. What I need is a day sailer and not a camper. I assume I will sail alone most times and when the wind dies or I get tired I will put it back on the trailer and go home. By myself I would actually spend very little time in the cabin. If I just added the dodger I think she would make me very happy. Add to that, that I have enough money stashed back to build the CS20 with a little to go towards a small outboard but not enough to pay for the Princess so it makes the choice easier. I wouldn't be getting to a point and having to stop and till I could save up some more money. Of course first I have to finish the house we are building. Once we get ti done I still have a lot of cabinetry to build for it.l But it's almost as much fun to plan the boat as to Mess about it them. If your interested you can see a web blog on the house I am building at www.kudzupatch.com/craftsman

Reading archived posts I got curious and looked at the Princess 22 page and now I am in lust! I sold a CAL 21 and said I never wanted another sailboat with a cabin again. Not even a cuddy except maybe for storing gear. I don't want a big boat and that is what it would take to get a useful cabin that I could be happy with. After spending the evening studying the Princess 22 photos I am having second thoughts. This boats cabin is way superior to the Cal. Plus it's bright work is something I love. The layout actually looks useful and comfortable. Something my Cal wasn't. The only comfortable positions were standing up with your head in the companion way or laying down in a bunk and they were way to narrow. So the cabin was only useful for storing gear and riding out a summer storm. What I was wondering is anyone have any idea how much more time this boat would take to build compared to a CS-20? I assume the interior is the big difference with all the cabinet/finish work. I would think hulls would be similar time wise. Since everyone works different would I be close in guessing twice as much time to build? Other question and I know this is impossible to answer accurately (maybe you can give me an idea Charlie). What would the materials cost on this boat? Ballpark, assuming you used good materials but not necessarily top of the line. Is it a 5K boat or a 10K boat? Just a ballpark would be nice. I really like this boat. I can see me sailing it in the evenings into the night. Spending time at anchor in spring in the cabin just messing about. Heck I could spend time just messing around in it on the trailer in the backyard!

Your absolutely right and I probably would paint them too.

Looking at the CS 20 very seriously. Seems to be just the boat I am looking for. Being a wood boat nut I have a problem with aluminum masts on such a pretty boat. I found an interesting article on here in the archives on wood and aluminum masts last night. What I am wondering is if anyone has a made a wooden mast that they were happy with? If so how was the weight and was it manageable setting it by yourself? My concern is to get a stiff enough unstayed wood mast that weight may become an issue for an over weight middle aged man to set by himself. As much as I dislike the look of aluminum masts on wood boats it may be the better choice in this application.

Thanks for the input. I am pretty well convinced that this is the boat I am looking for. Your comments have been helpful. Still looking for other opinions and input from other owners!

Once again, thanks for the input. I used to could sail my CAL up to the dock in all but the worst weather. Then it was more of matter of be tossed into the dock that I worried about. And of course a sheet sticking and suddenly sailing off or worse into something! I love the idea of pure sail. But I have made trips where the wind would blow hard and then all but die before we could get back home. Thats where I was going with that. But I would prefer to keep it (outboard) stowed away, out of sight even. New question. What don't you like about the boat? And what would you do different if you were building a new one? So far you have about convinced me I have found my boat. Sad part is it would probably be next fall or winter before I have my new house projects done and I could start on it. PLus I have an old Cris Craft Sea Skiff I need to refasten the hull on first. Mr wife and neice are going to shoot me if we don't get it back in the water this summer! I would love to hear some more opinions from other owners.

Thanks Brent. Nothing like hearing from an actual owner! I am leaning toward the 20 and you said nothing to change my mind. I am thinking bigger is better in this case. I had a CAL 21 and while I could single hand it, it was a handful in big wind. The Genoa could be hard to adjust with one hand on the tiller. Thats the main reason I sold it. That was part of my hesitation for another 20 footer. But this boat's rig appears to be much easier to handle and much smaller sail area too. Do you use an outboard on it? While I love to row and have no problem with oars we are on a big lake and I think a small outboard would be wise. If nothing more than at the dock! Thanks for the input.

This has probably been asked before but I didn't see it. I have been looking for a day-sailer plans for some time. I found the CS17 and 20 and they seem to be exactly what I am looking for. A trailer day sailer that I can rig up quickly. Plus it must be fast on the water. I am having a hard time deciding between the two. Since cost is not a major issue I thought I would address what is. I sold my lakefront home and we are building a new one off the water. So I am now trailer boat man. The water is only a 5 minute drive away. 3 good ramps in that distance. I want something I can hook to the truck on the spur of the moment and get out on the water quickly for an hours sailing if I want. Often times I would come home and if the wind was blowing I would take my old CAL 21 out for hour of sailing. With it tied the dock that was a simple task. I will sail by myself most of the time. I want to be able to take three people along comfortably and sometimes 4 people but not often. My niece seems interested in sailing (hopefully!!) Main concern is single handing in high winds. Cause if it ain't blowing I ain't goin'. I am one of those that is heading out when everyone else (around here) is heading in. We live a large lake but big waves are 2.5' to 3' and thats not very common. To get that big even I would have second thoughts about being out on the water. It would have to be blowing extremely hard! So, based on this information can anyone give me some input? Would love to hear from those of you that have either boat and can give some first hand comments.