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  1. Hi, Andy.  I'd say iffy.  We pondered both bridges and couldn't quite tell if the CS 17 masts would fit beneath them.  The water was still a little high last summer, so maybe if it falls again this summer the clearance will be more obvious.  Mona Lake is at Lake Michigan level.  West of the second bridge is a channel before the lake, so there's an area where you could pull up and put up masts if you wanted to motor out first and then rig after the bridges.  Mona was pretty good for sailing, especially in the middle pool, where the ramp is.  The ramp, in the park on the north shore, was fine, and there was a sandy beach next to the ramp to pull up and rig or get the car, etc.  Two slots at the ramp.

     

    I just tried to check NOAA charts and there isn't one for Mona Lake, which you have probably discovered already.  The overall Lake Michigan chart that is available does not even show the bridges.

  2. Alan of B&B ran a series of posts on this site a couple years ago showing a motor well he added to his boat.

    I tried searching and couldn't find it.  I imagine Alan will weigh in at some point.  It wasn't the youtube shown above, which is a well in the interior of the 20.  The one I'm thinking of involved putting a sort of box in the transom of the 17.  It took Alan about 3 hours.  Would take me about 3 weeks.

  3. Well, this is one way I did it, stringing the tarp along the mizzen, which I tied up with a halyard.  That was so-so, and a lot of work. 

    Version 2.0 is a lot better:  I just tied the tarp back from the dodger to the mizzen, made a kind of gasket joint around the mast, and then pulled the tarp corners down to the opposite quarters of the boat while tying the sides out to the gunnels from the dodger back to the mizzen. And I made up some tent poles to make U's underneath, from fiberglass "replacement" poles I found on the web.  So that required sockets, but I could use my oarlocks.  It all worked, notably in a roaring Wisconsin Thunderstorm.  Not pretty, I suppose.  I kept a lot of the tarp over the dodger to help insure rain-proof-ness.  The tarp of which I speak is from REI, sold as a camp tarp, 12x12, lightweight,  waterproof.  

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  4. Here's a pretty neat video of a CS 17 in Australia cruising in some of the Great Barrier Reef waters, in company with an O'Day Day Sailor (I believe).  We've seen the CS before, and it's nicely tricked out.  Note in leaves the O'Day in its wake (that may be in part 2, this is a link to part 1).  Fun to see.  

     

  5. Not sure if we're talking about counters or power skiffs or what anymore here.  But i did want to add that my experience with Halcyon tracks with Kennee's, especially in the last year or so, when I think Total Boat improved the mix.  It's pretty good stuff, not up to "real" varnish, but definitely worth using unlike some of the other water based products.  We have used Halcyon at our volunteer shop, where short recoat time is always a plus because the kids or other workers are only on hand for a couple of hours or so at a time.  With Halcyon, they could get two coats in one session and come up with decent results to boot.  The soap-and-water cleanup is a real plus in that setting as well.

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  6. Having been reminded by the picture that Don just posted that Mandy is only 12 feet long, bring the halyard down the mast, put a turning block on the "foredeck" and run the halyard back in one shot to some sort of cleat on the middle thwart.  Bingo.

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  7. I run the halyard on my CS 17 back to the helm.  The halyard comes down the mast, through a small harken single block (as a turning block) on the deck near the mast, then through a couple of bullseyes to lead it aft, then into a clam cleat with a keeper-thing on it so that when I release the halyard, it will run free and not keep re-engaging with the clam.  I will try to get a picture later today.  It works well.  Halyard is 1/8" yacht braid, which is plenty.  The downhaul, snotter and two reef lines also all come back, the same way.  I have the cleats mounted about mid-way back on the boat, on the side deck (or I guess it's really the coaming).  I can reach them with my right arm and still run the tiller with my left arm.  To let the sail down, I just uncleat everything and let the lines run, basically.

  8. Randy, i guess you kind of need to do the mental math:  What's the (a) effort of climbing in and out of the trailered boat vs the (b) effort of unloading and reloading the boat on trailer plus bending over a lot vs. the (c) effort of making a rolling cradle [if you don't have one already] but saving the effort of bending over.  I think the key variable is how much work you must do inside the boat, and what kind.  If it's a lot, I'd go for putting the boat on a cradle.

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    2 hours ago, PadrePoint said:

    I will bring Avocet to the Messabout… then I will leave it at Don Silsbe’s house for winter stabling, care, feeding, and, of course, exercise. 
    😁

    Good deal.  I'm hoping to make it to the messabout, but I got roped into something the evening of the 19th, grrr, so will have to leave then to start driving.  I'll use the spaghetti dinner as an incentive, assuming all works out...

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    Our volunteer shop produced a Caravelle designed by Clint Chase with a rig similar to Mandy's.  Caravelle's boom is not tied to the mast, but I don't think that makes a difference to what follows:

    --Hard down haul tension is a must, but a 2-1 setup is plenty.  When the downhaul is set, the whole sail swings back and also creates a hard luff, which as Don noted is a must.

    --You don't exactly need a parrell on the top sprit, but it's good to keep it near the mast.  You can do this with the halyard if you tie the end of the halyard out near the front of the sprit, then run it around the mast and back to a block on the sprit at the normal attachment point before sending it through the block on top of the mast and down the mast for hoisting.  You'll need to do some adusting, natch, but it really works wonders, especially when the sprit is on the downwind side of the mast.  In practice, you lay the sprit and the "sprit line" out on opposite sides of the mast hole before you step the mast, then step the mast between the sprit and the "sprit line," so that they'll run up opposite sides of the mast when you hoist the sail.  Wish I could describe it better.  Clint describes it in the plans, and I hope he forgives me for clipping this bit out of the plans:  image.png.4d93ba87a55e9db127c8733f19225ca2.png

    (I don't think it was original with him??)

    Clint also refers to another designer's site, Michael Storer, for more info on lugsails, and I recall this was pretty helpful,  http://www.storerboatplans.com/GIS/GISRigging.html 

     

    Well, that's what I know.  Best wishes.

     

     

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  11. I'd go back to the cradle plans in the kit.  I.e., a plywood cross sectional at roughly the forward bulkhead and another 3 or 4 feet forward of the transom, and one at mid-boat, if memory serves.  Put those on a rolling frame.  put a couple of cross timbers blocked up to the keel underneath if those don't seem sturdy enough, but I bet they will.  I crawled all over my 17 (mk I) on that setup.

  12. You should be able to heave to (at least more or less sit in one spot) by letting the sail out nearly perpendicular and letting it luff, then playing with finding a spot to lock the tiller so you don't either drop downwind or come up and about.  Usually that will mean holding the tiller a bit to wind, but you'll need to experiment both with sail position and tiller position.  I leave my centerboard down, although apparently some folks pick up the board.  I've never tried that.  Every boat is different, eh?  You come out of it by pulling in the sail and using the tiller as needed.

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