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Scott Dunsworth

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  1. Just wondering why you have to turn her three times? I did all of my Belhaven bottom, epoxy paint on the bottom up to the waterline, turned her back for good. One complete turn.
  2. I have a friend that uses a bat mitten racket for entertainment on his deck for these little pests, we call them wood bees around here. He loves the sound they make when he makes a good hit. ( Thooningg ) Kind of strange entertainment, he got 84 one year, I think he needs a girl friend or another boat.
  3. This reminded me of a aluminum bass boat I had 25 years ago. I was on a fishing weekend and had just got started good when I noticed the carpet on the raised floor getting wet. I had no bilge pump so I took her back to the trailer and discovered a rivet in the bottom had popped completely out. So I got a number sticker from the marina and stuck over the rivet hole and fish the rest of the weekend. This Lowe boat was only two years old at the time. I know a few folks that keep a roll of gorilla tape on board for this kind of stuff. Dale I also was sailing my Belhaven at ten thousand islands with the WCTSS a few years back and a fellow had a leaking Sea Peril that we ended up taping up. It had something to do with modified ballast tanks. There is actually a company that makes a tape for emergencies like this, I think its called Rescue Tape. I know this has nothing to do with bail-er maintenance but it just jogged my old memory. Scott
  4. The names yours, Fishman Par I think I have enough steel laying around to make a wood steel unit. Somewhere in that weight range. I had thought about some screws at an angle, but hadn't thought about epoxy tabbing them.
  5. The tuss's in the building are on 8 foot centers so I think the widest section of beam will have a little more clearance in between two of the truss. With glass the hull material weighs right at 2 pounds per square foot, there is slightly more than 500 square feet. I'm estimating that footage by what I bought and and how much was left over. So that's 1000 pounds the keel about 200, the keel batten and stem 200 and an average of 40 pounds per temporary frame 300 pounds that's a total of 1700 pounds. I am thinking a metal cradle, with sled type runners on the bottom to drag the boat out on when completed. Peter you edge glued yours, mine is thick joints of balloons and silica. It seems pretty strong, but I' not ready to trust it completely until the inside glass is in place. So far what I have tested on cut offs is the wood always gives way not the joint. Thanks for the other food for thought, Par. I bought the buffer with intention of making a sheet sander, but haven't as of yet.
  6. I'm not to the long boarding of the glassed hull yet, still in the rough grinding. Also fairing the glass overlaps along the length of the hull and around the stem. I guess I'm into pain because once this is completed I am going to put a thin layer of six oz plain weave over the top sides to cover very shallow divots that I'm afraid to sand out completely and chance getting into the 17 oz glass. It would also help minimize print through. Probably do the same with the bottom. One major mistake I made was rolling on the fill coats, should have squeegeed them all on. I got plenty on but it ended up feeling like the surface of an orange, that's where the shallow divots came from. The extra thin layer of glass and epoxy will add about 80 pounds to the whole boat. I did get a 7 inch polisher, sander that is helping a lot. I think me and my right shoulder must just be a bit to much of a whiner. As for turning her over plan A is with slings. Don't know exactly what I'll set her on yet, which will be a concern for me until she is glassed inside to finish the hull strength integrity. If she was glassed inside she could set on her eight foot keel and boat stands chained together. But I don't think I want those pressure points until shes glassed inside. Thought about letting her hang in the wide straps while removing a couple of frames at a time, glassing that area, then a couple more and so on. Another problem will be her beam is just shy of 10 feet and so is the height of the building, it will be close. If we didn't already have a name for her I would make it JUST BECAUSE. So when another person asks why I didn't just buy a nice used boat, much cheaper and less effort, I can say just because.
  7. Actually it's a world of deference, my Belhaven was built with long flat sheets of plywood. This thing is built with a zillion pieces of wood that have to look like they are one. The sense of accomplishment will be great in the end, IF the builder can make them look as one!, AND There lies the problem. I'm not a professional, just a back yard builder, with professional advice. I have great respect for someone that can make a seamless looking boat from plywood! But I may be in over my head on trying to make all these strips look seamless. I have looked over Peter's Princess 28 twice and I guess I'm using his work as a standard, because it looks flawless to me. The last time I saw his work he pointed out flaws that he saw, but I couldn't, even after he showed me. I see all of mine! A Plywood build , which is all I've ever done IS big time different. I like PLYWOOD . I heard Peter talk about the costs of building a curvy boat and I fully understand now, where I didn't pay much attention before. My hat's off to you Peter, can't wait to see her wet and under sail!!!! Scott
  8. She told me from the first breath I took while telling her I wanted to build a cruising keel boat that I was insane. She was right, but it's to late now . I have a good start on one that will be nice once all the effort is spent. I grinded, fared and added two more keel lamination's today. A total of ten more hours of work and you can barely tell that I was there. I think or believe that once the hull is turned and I start on the inside that it will become much easier to be motivated. Sometimes I wish Graham would have told me to fly a kite when I asked him to design this boat for me. Then I set back and look at her lines and run my hand over her smooth hull and think how lucky I am that he did it for me. I'm truly thankful that he did, it's just when I look at the work ahead of me that is discouraging. I know it will be a rare boat being a very well designed cat ketch 28 cruising design. I just have to figure out how to get through this rough bump in the road of all this fairing and sanding. Maybe I am being to picky with the way I'm trying to finish the hull, maybe not. I look at a lot of factory boats where the hull isn't perfect. Charlie Jones gave me some great advice a while back. He told me he never paints the hull in high gloss, but then told me I could try and if I wasn't satisfied I could shoot the 2nd and third coat in a slightly flatter coat. Maybe I should take some of my own advice that I gave Howard on his 26 and just build the thing and go sailing.
  9. I haven't got to do any work on my boat to amount to anything forever now. I have been building a house for a customer on a lake that's about 65 miles from my house, so I stay down there a lot instead of burning $200 worth of gas a week. Started in November and should finish next week. Next our house just sold and we have 65 days to build or to find and buy another. So it looks like the middle of the summer before I'll be able to get back to the build in any kind of serious way. :( I have ordered another 15 gallons of goo, but that's all the progress I've made.
  10. One thing that always bugged me about motoring my Belhaven was the rudder would shimmy while motoring. It wouldn't do it under sail at the same speed. My motor was way offset, I hope you don't have problems with that.
  11. My brother and wife used their SD 10n for the first time since they bought their trawler a few days ago. My brother was setting on the small back seat and his wife got in and flopped down on a cushion on the same side of the boat on the center seat, over they went. They managed to stay in the boat, but the water poured over the side and filled the whole boat. She had her back pack in the boat with phones and computer in it all those were done for. When they boarded from their sail boat it was higher out of the water and it was more or less a straight down over the side boarding, in the trawler they were close to the water from the swim platform and just messed up. Anyway it was their fault, but the up side is the dink, the outboard and they were still floating, full of water. So there is plenty of flotation in the 10n design. Only wish I could have been there to see it all!!! He always gets a laugh out of my blunders also Its been proven that you live longer if you laugh a lot, so we try to help each other out in that regard.
  12. I had about 112 hours in a spindrift 10n I built for my brother and my best guess about 900 on my Belhaven.
  13. Sorry Hargrave, I agree with you and edited my post.
  14. Yea, but double the price of fuel doesn't = double the price in product. I'm getting ready to order my plywood for the sandwiched decks and the cabin and it just makes me sick. As a owner operator of a tracker trailer told me not long ago fuel does increase his costs, but it should only add about 7% max to the overall costs of the product, considering how much he delivers in a load. No one gets political on this forum and that is a good thing, but if we the people don't ease up on the restriction for new drilling permits and quit attacking the coal fired industry we are all in for major price increases and hardships.
  15. I'm from a little different breed, I like comfort and durability over performance any day. Of all of Grahams designs a few extra pounds won't make that much difference I would notice. But I could care less about racing. My Belhaven came in at about 150 pounds heavier than Graham intended, because I used Meranti, a little more ballast and a few more braces. I was never disappointed with the performance. But I never raced my little cruising boat, just enjoyed her.
  16. Again I will offer some nice what I believe to be silicon bronze sail track for sale,5/8's. Would be very nice for a wooden mast. PM me.
  17. If Meranti was the higher priced I would still chose Meranti. NOW that said if I was building a light delicate boat there is nothing out there that will compare to Okoume. But if weight doesn't make a big difference, the Metranti is a lot tougher. The opinions are very great in this subject and I definitely am not a know it all, but Meranti takes a lot more abuse. It doesn't bend quite as good as Okoume but really not that much different. You can always compromise and use light where it wont get much abuse and tough where it needs to take the abuse. That's exactly what I'm going to do on my new 28, I'll use Meranti on the decks, but Okoume where it doesn't matter. Our designer doesn't like unnecessary weight and I understand where he's coming from. Like all opinions, keep the meat and throw out the bones! Scott
  18. Although the CS17 is not as large a build as the Belhaven it's still a pretty big project. I would love to have a CS17 to beat around in. I have seen several sailing and they look like a lot a fun.
  19. I have been pricing marine ply and it has doubled in price since I started my my Belhaven build in 2004 !!!!
  20. I'm always a Meranti fan unless weight is a issue. I like the darker meranti finished bright. I personaly don't like anything about Okoume but the weight, I think it's way over rated and priced.
  21. Russell, I thought about using the Kreg pocket screws and jig to install bulkheads and other various things. They would hold things together, very precise and add some shear strength if left in. But my hull and bulkheads are quite a bit thicker than most builds on this forum. I haven't checked to see if their available in stainless yet. I started using the pocket screw set up a few years ago and it is amazingly strong and easy. But I haven't used any applications on any boats yet, but can see a lot of areas that they could be used. I almost never use my biscuit jointer anymore.
  22. Howard most of our worries are just that worries. Of course there is always a special situation where everything comes together at just the right time to cause problems. My Belhavens lead shoe took all the bottom abuse I gave the boat, just ask Rick he smoothed out some of those dings after he bought her. Every Time I took a hard hit to the bottom I would simply look her over when I got her back on the trailer. My new build will probably only get hauled every two or three years for bottom paint and inspection. Building your keel with lamination's will also give you the benefit of, if a small breach is made it cant get through the glue line into another layer of the keel or the hull itself. It would start to swell and delaminate the glass along time before rot could even get started. If that happened, all you would have to do is grind the glass out to let her dry out and reglass. I only had two layers of 10 oz glass on my deadwood and never even scratched through the VC paint in six years of heavy use. My best unprofessional advise is just build her, lay a extra layer of glass in common since areas and just go sailing. I know its easier said than done, just check her out every once in a while and everything will be OK.
  23. Might be worth a try, when I built my house I used some 2x6's that were 26 feet long for roof rafters. The lumber yard said DF was the only thing they could get in that length. Some of the Lowes stores carry #1 select DF in one by stuff up to 12 feet long, 6 inch was the widest, I used that for my Belhaven. I'm using clear yellow pine 2x12's to cut my keel lamination's from. Its heavy, but that's a good place to use heavy and strong. I plane mine down to about 1 3/8's to get them perfectly flat. Personally I would stay as far away from treated lumber as possible, it may take two years to get the stuff truly dried out.
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