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Dale Niemann

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  1. I have supported my furled main and mizzen with a holder about the same as yours mounted in the main and mizzen tubes. Since 2007 I have had no sail damage since 2007, however I put a piece of carpet in the curved section slightly wider than the board thickness. Also, I always tied the sails tightly to the deck so they have very little movement if any. Whenever the boat is home I release the hold down line pressure.


    You might try that. It has worked for me.

  2. Alan,

    Not sure what this means, but here is copy of screen I got when I tried to go to sailboats and clicked on 17'.  I always use Firefox.  Maybe you need to do something special for Firefox.



    Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

    Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to bandbyachtdesigns.com. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details.

    What can you do about it?

    The issue is most likely with the website, and there is nothing you can do to resolve it. You can notify the website’s administrator about the problem.

  3. I have decided to sell my 'Salty'.  At this price she is a very good buy for someone that will take good care of her. Here are the details. Send me a personal message, or email or call. She is located in Palm Harbor, FL USA



    2013 18’ B & B Designed Marissa Center Console Motorboat,

    2013 Yamaha F60, 60 HP Engine

    2012 Continental Galvanized Trailer

    ONLY 84 hours on the engine.  Serviced regularly

    She has been used very little and is in excellent condition

    Professionally painted with AwlGrip

    Constructed from a B & B Yacht Design Kit

    Construction: Composite - Okume plywood with fiberglass on both sides

    Hydraulic steering with Stainless wheel with knob

    Custom professionally made Sunbrella bimini

    Professionally made Custom Sunbrella cover

    Winner of the Wooden Boat Eco boat design contest




    Salty Console.jpg

    'Salty' on Three Rooker Bar.JPG

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  4. When rolling the sail on the mast and using it as a way to reef, how do you plan to keep the sail from unrolling?


    I don't remember if it was specified on the plans or not but I am pretty certain that I kept the same angle on the third mast hole. I have a feeling that whoever built your boat made the same mistake on the third position as on the main mast.

  5. I have a center mast step on my CS 17 Lively.  I have only used it once and that was just a test to see how well it worked.  It worked fine but almost immediately decided that I would prefer to have a good slab reefing system using the normal sail plan.  My sails were sleeved at that time. I had them resewn for a sail track and slab reefing.  Basically, I do some beach cruising so want to be able to handle highly variable wind conditions. Pulling out a mast and moving it to a new position in my opinion is not an option when the wind is blowing 15+ mph. I am speaking about the CS 17, it may be easier to do on the BRS 15.

  6. Steve,

    My son has left for HI so I will be deciding this weekend on a price for Salty.

    I will let you know.

    I might consider your 12 as a down payment. I have been lusting one like yours for a long time. In fact ever since I saw you sailing it at St Michaels, MD. Maybe we could make a deal that would save you some cash.


  7. I have now had some time to study your diagram.

    I believe you mean for the mast tube to continue to the bottom of the mast but I could not tell from the drawing. Is this correct?

    Also, how do you envision the shape of the FG tube collar from the mast bottom (right end view)?  Would it be a solid mass of epoxy/fiberglass with the pivot bolt going through it or possibly a wooden box or solid wood with aft side shaped to fit the mast tube?

    A problem in trying to retrofit would be, right now there is about 3/16" clearance on each side of the mast. I believe if I remember right when I did the tubes for Lively I used three wraps of 6 oz plastic and about three wraps of epoxy glass which is quite a bit thicker than the clearance I have available.  I guess I will have to widen the inside somehow to accommodate the the thicker mast/tube combination and then put doublers? on the outside of the u shaped post.

    It appears that your hinge lock would work and be very strong. However, it would end up being about 9" off the anchor locker floor so would require a 9" high by 3-4" wide by about 17" long at top sort of box to mount it on.  This is definitely doable but the problem is that it is then located directly in the middle of the anchor locker where the anchor rode is currently being stored.  I do not have to worry about anchor storage there because Chick mounted an anchor pulpit.

    I am wondering if some sort of flip latch or two one on each side mounted on the tabernacle post would work and use less space. I tried to attach a photo of a latch I did for holding a door open but it did not work so will try later. Thanks.



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  8. Tom,

    Thank you so much for the drawing and explanation.  You have covered exactly what I was looking for. Now I have to decide if I want to or can retro-fit it to Summer Breeze. I really appreciate your spending the extra time to laying it out on paper.


    One thing I don't think I have mentioned is that on Lively early on I had the original sleeve sails converted two reefing points on a sail track. I did not add battens so the sails they easily/quickly wrap on the masts and I just pull them out and cradle them on PVC posts inserted in the mast tubes like you mentioned.  I have seen the vertical battens on Sea Pearls around here and yes they look funny but seem to work.  The sail tracks and reefing points seem to work very well so I do not have a problem with having the tracks.


    More later.


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