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This project is now complete. I posted it here since B&B supplied all the plywood, the blanks for the centerboard and rudder, most of the epoxy, the Ronston Hardware, and really nice piece of mahogany to make a couple of short bench seat boards. B&B also supplied 95% of the know how so that I could start and finish this project. It is nice to have it complete. Thank you.

Thank you. Almost done..

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Also forgot to mention, she has always been dry stored under our house, and she comes with a dust cover.

Hellow NC Todd, This is Richard Johnson the owner and builder of Avocet. I can be reached at W10139@gmail.com. or by phone at 252 515 6599. You can see the build information on this sight under CS 17 Mk III Avocet. I'm not great with advertising but she comes with a very good trailer. I just replace the bearing, and it has a spare tire. I also replaced the leaf springs last year. She has custom made cushions which are very comfortable and serviceable. We added ports at the front of the cabin and the 4 side windows open for ventilation. We made a scoop for the front tabernacle compartment to push air in. This is a long winded way of saying, good ventilation without bugs. Nice creature comforts. She is overbuilt in terms epoxy, she is very stiff. I have dropped her off waves and she does not shiver and she surfs nicely. Finally it is much more important to me that she finds a good home than to extract every penny of value out of her. Best Regards to all, and thank you.

Please see the build photos and sailing photos at B&B messabout forum for" Core Sound 17 MkIII: Avocet:. There is complete information there. We are asking $11,000 without the motor. Thank you

Good morning. Avocet is for sale. We have other boats and project to pursue. Please see the pages that detail her build and our enjoyment of the boat. We are asking $11,000 without the motor. Kindest Regards to all

Thank you both. The purpose of the bridle was to reduce the downward pull on the mizzen sprit when trying to center the sail going to windward. I was bending the mast and depowering the top of the sail. I felt like the boat was losing drive. Alan suggested the bridle. It does help. I can better center the sail without as much downward pressure. I think it feels better but have no way to provide solid data. The next iteration will be to make it adjustable. In terms of tangling on the motor, it is about the same as the standard set up. I tend not to tack a lot so, it is not a big worry. Funny you should pick up on that, it seems like small detail. But a good question. Once again, thank you. Also the picture was taken on January 1, thus my wife wearing all her gear.

I have Great admiration for anyone who would set off on a Watertribe event. You have to be brave just to start. Getting into a boat, takes upper body strength, and that takes fitness. Even the best ladder, in a cold rough sea, would be a challenge. Retracting the centerboard once heaved to can settle the boat. The board may have been up on purpose. Kindest Regards

Good evening, Alan mentioned this thread to me the other day and have just had a chance to take a quick look. A couple of details caught my attention. 1) Had the centerboard not slid into the well, the boat could have been righted. Alan's line attached to the board is one way to retrieve the board if it slides in. Another way to prevent this mishap is to use a preventer line to hold the board down. It is separate line that works opposite the lifting line to hold the board in position. This can be found on Lightnings and flying Scotts that have weighted centerboards. To do this would take some redesign and probably removal of the cover/ top from the centerboard well. In general my preference would be a non-weighted centerboard and a way to positively hold it in place. Having capsized lightnings, I am not a fan of weighted centerboards. In our boats the additional ballast does not add a lot of righting moment. In summary once a board has slid in, it is difficult, even if not weighted to get it out. Better to keep the board locked down. 2) I have had at least two friends capsize with inflatable vests, and they could not get back in the boat with the vest on. They are fine if you don't have to climb back in the boat. A proper life vest is better. 3) Jibing. When it is time to jibe, turn the rudder only 5 degrees. Pull sails in half way. The jibe is slow ark. When the sails get light pull them across the boat. Jibing like capsize recovery, needs practice. Sometimes they go hand in hand. Also, death rolling is the result of a vacuum forming behind the sails. You can reduce the vacuum by allowing the sails to go forward or to bring sails in some. The idea is to let air get behind the sail. Finally, our Cs17mk3 is a great boat. We are fortunate as a group to have designers who are willing to go back to the design board to be sure we can all sail better and safer. Best Regards to all.

I remember Liz commenting on the Graphics, they were done by my oldest daughter. She did our first graphic when she was 8 with a grease pencil. It lasted for 10 years.

Tom, The photo is very nice. Also it shows your mid-sprit sheeting for the mizzen. Thank you for the photo and the idea. We have named all our boats after birds from our first boat Free Range Chickn' to our present Dinghy BlackSkimmer, and now the Avocet. I would like to build a Marissa and name it Kingfisher with a light grey hull and black boot stripe All in good time. I need to sail more now. Kind Regards

Tom, Thank you. We had a very nice sail. Were you sailing as well? I just did a quick post on an idea I borrowed from you about the mizzen sheet. It worked well. Regards

Continuing development : Addition of bridle for mizzen mid-sprit sheeting: Tom Lathrop' s idea A friend pointed out that in the effort to center the mizzen, I was bending the mast and putting a lot of leach tension on the sail, which effectively de-powers the sail. That is good when it is really windy not so good in light air. I came up with some very complicated solutions, contacted Alan and he suggested this as a first step. It is simple, and works well. This photo is only part of the story. I am willing to go into further detail if anyone is curious. The result is as follows. We participated in a New Year Day Regatta, with about 30 to 40 boats all in the 30' to 40' ranges. Winds were 9 ish to maybe 12 with some 15 later in the day. So very pleasant. I had two astute sailors on board and both agreed we were able to point with the big boats. We could not drive with them, which is no surprise. Average speed for the race was 3.9 knots, with two legs upwind, so pretty good for a small boat. The improvement was probably more in feel than in real performance. The impression was that we were pointing higher and there was more drive. That is what we wanted to achieve. It cost me two blocks from B&B and I was able to move hardware on the boat to make it work. In other words marginal additional expense. It does complicate rigging a little but I think the performance is worth the extra 3 minutes fiddling with lines. Regards