Abyssdncr Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Finally picked up my 4'x8' special order from Menards yesterday. Also got a sweet piece of cedar for the tadpole! Got the bow and stern cut last night and the frames cut today. Wasted a bit of time trying to entertain the boy without getting either one of us in too much trouble. I don't think he was to terribly entertained, but we both still have ten fingers and ten toes. Borrowed a basic router to help clean things up a little. Still some sanding yet to do, but many back and knees have had enough for today. Obligatory progress pic: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Wasted a bit of time trying to entertain the boy without getting either one of us in too much trouble. I don't think he was to terribly entertained, but we both still have ten fingers and ten toes. Children are darn inconvenient, but then being a parent or grandparent was never meant to be convenient. That you did stuff with him was what mattered. That you did something with a result you will both enjoy is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 It is impossible to waste time. You spend it, that's it. It's the only thing we have, really. Not one second spent with your kids is ever wasted time. Even if it's just cuddling in front of the stupid toob. The latest rage in our yard is obstacles to be negotiated. Balance beams atilt abound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 It is impossible to waste time. You spend it, that's it. It's the only thing we have, really. Not one second spent with your kids is ever wasted time. Poorly worded... I'll gladly do it again. We're in a pseudo-foster situation right now, and the poor kid has just been completely raised on electronic entertainment so far. Doing my darnedest to engage him in some real world activities, but it's definitely a struggle... Plus 8 yr. old arms tire of sanding quite quickly, lol. Hoping he's still around to actually harvest the fruits of his labors in the warmer months, regardless of how small they might be. So far he's been the biggest contributor to the cause, but my youngest is certainly vying for some daddy time herself. Good times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Oh, not meant to harass, but encourage. Get out there and teach them kids to waste time, proper like. Skipping rocks is a very important activity, for example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Started putting the strongback together today. Got the keel stringer set in place and started fitting some frames to the stringers and doing a little mockup. Starting to get exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Might be a little out of order on the construction, but making progress: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Nice work. She is a pretty boat. I still look at mine lovingly often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Well, damn... Now I'm getting an appeciation for all the "work" that must go in to designing one of these. Went to dry fit the gunwales with zip ties tonight and both tips want to touch about four inches above the bow and stern tips. Guess it's time to check and adjust the angles of the frame notches a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Got things adjusted and fit. Should be able to get it lashed up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Frame lashed and ready for seat slats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Now I'm getting an appeciation for all the "work" that must go in to designing one of these. Yup! There is a lot more to it than most realize and I am always learning new tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Got the seat slats lashed in today and cut some foot brace mounts from leftover stringer stock. Picked up some tung oil and Rustoleum at Lowes today and started baptizing the wood with the tung. I ordered some 15" Attwood footrests like the CLC kayak came with. Not particularly fancy, but definitely cheap enough and I won't be adjusting them very often, so the Sea-Lects at almost twice the price seemed like overkill. This brings me to several questions: The space for your feet is somewhat limited, so has anyone attempted to mount the foot brace attach wood on the outside of the frames like a stringer, but just recessed inside where the covering will sit? That would save a lot of interior room, but would require cutting notches on an already assembled frame. Pretty sure I can drill the notch corners and make some clean cuts with the Japanese saws, but it's still a little stressful just thinking about it. Second, I bought Jeff's cheap 6 oz poly. Do I just running / whip stitch it, or try the double corded stitch? I also opted to try a Coleman stadium seat for this boat - anyone have a report pro or con on this idea? At $13, it seemed like a very cost effective alternate to a $28 backrest + ? for a "kayak" seat. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003399114 Lastly, on the double corded stitch, how does one anchor the cords when starting the stitch? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich D Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Footrests - First time I have tried to attach a picture so hope this works. If you zoom in on this photo, on the left side you can see a vertical piece that is screwed to the inside of the gunwale. The bottom of the vertical just rests on a stringer. Then the footrest is attached to the outside of the vertical piece so the footrest bracket is between stringers and outside the inner hull area. There are 2 vertical pieces on each side, front and rear of footrest bracket. On this boat the front piece is up against a cross section so it is supported when foot pressure is applied. Ok - looks like the photo shows up but on its side. Footrest bracket is on the bottom of the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Footrests - First time I have tried to attach a picture so hope this works. If you zoom in on this photo, on the left side you can see a vertical piece that is screwed to the inside of the gunwale. The bottom of the vertical just rests on a stringer. Then the footrest is attached to the outside of the vertical piece so the footrest bracket is between stringers and outside the inner hull area. There are 2 vertical pieces on each side, front and rear of footrest bracket. Good idea, Rich! I'll look at that tonight. That'll save even more space internally. I also like your little footrest fabric area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich D Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 The above footrest brackets work with the Atwood design but not with the Sea-Lect. The brackets would interfere with the pivoting adjustment rod on the Sea-Lect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 The vertical posts don't mesh well with the FreeB frame unless I wanted to attach via screws with some artfully notched posts. Is there any good reason not to just screw the straight to the stringer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich D Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I realize now that mine is on a multi-chine design where the vertical support is screwed to the inside of the gunwale, some side support is provided by the first stringer below the gunwale, and the block rests on the second stringer below. With a single chine design some sort of support would have to be fashioned to secure the bottom of the block from being forced out against the skin. I think screwing into the stringer would work OK especially if the forward block was large enough to be contact the cross section ahead of it for additional support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssdncr Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I think screwing into the stringer would work OK especially if the forward block was large enough to be contact the cross section ahead of it for additional support. The Attwoods have three mounting lugs, so I think I'll use all 3 of them with a shim in the middle so it doesn't flatten out the natural bow on the stringer. Coleman seat showed up today and it looks like it will work wonderfully. Foot braces arrive Wed. The girls are doing a great job of applying the Formby's tung oil / wiping varnish / whatever it is every night while I work on the coaming form. Hope to get that finished tomorrow evening and see it my first attempt will take the curve. At this rate, I should be sewing by the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich D Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Anxious to hear how the sewing goes. I have some of the same cloth but it will be a couple of weeks before I can get it sewn on. I have only used the 11 ounce fabric before but i think Jeff recommends using the double corded stitch on the 6 ounce also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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