Action Tiger Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Despite biscuits and spacers and weights and clamps galore, the truss still came out twisted. This stuff is terrible. Not to worry, I have a new plan. This simplified one should be ready today, sans legs. I'm going to make this plywood into a straight, true structure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Well, I got the box ripped apart and converted, by gluing two strips face to face, into 1x3 plywood sticks. Dead straight! These will be glued and bolted into a 16' long 2x3, to which the 1" thick top will be screwed and glued. One day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Unforeseen work of a jobical nature has postponed my kayak again. Which is awesome. Progress pending... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Okay. Lots of glue and clamps and weights later, the pieces are ready. I'll get the tee together after I true them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hey, presto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 The set up proved too long for my usual screen porch workshop, so I decided to build her outside, right beside the porch. And it started to rain. No lie. I can honestly say weather is delaying my build, and I could not be happier. I'm also searching for stringer material. I want the tightest grain possible, and I'm willing to wait. I think this is about the pace my FreeB came together, too. Paddled her just last week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Okay, I said I was looking for perfect wood, but this stick was free... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Ahh, perfect wood. Does it really exist?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Heck yes it does. Don't you ever read boatbuilding books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 No, I just write them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think here I'm supposed to write LOL. I sure did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I was sitting on the porch when the hummingbirds distracted me with territorial wars over the bottle brush. I went to watch, and I tripped over my stringer board, which set me to thinking about scarfs. How much care do you (as in all of you) give when it comes to staggering scarfs? What I mean is staggering them around the boat, so they don't all fall in the same line. I'm curious more than seeking advice, but as this IS a discussion about building these type of boats... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodman Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Ah, perfect wood that dosent bow, cup, or twist.....Like a perfect concrete floor guranteed not to crack.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 You can keep your concrete. I'll take a wood floor anyday. You find that perfect stick, though, I'll take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 How much care do you (as in all of you) give when it comes to staggering scarfs? What I mean is staggering them around the boat, so they don't all fall in the same line. I always stagger mind just so they don't line up and be obvious to anyone looking inside the boat. On the new boat I forgot and they are all in the same area. But if the glue joint is proper, it is strong than the wood anyway so it isn't going to matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 It is better if scarfs do not fall on frames. It isn't a matter of strength in the normal sense, but glue joints don't like focused forces and a bang against the stringer against the frame will focus on the glue line and not dissipate as well. I had to be wary of this for the strakes on the Lapwing I am building now. But any other consideration is cosmetic or subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav3xor Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I staggered mine, and I also used a round lashing to keep them from coming apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I plan on staggering them, but just thought I'd ask. I'm not sure a lashing around a straight slash scarf would do much if the glue let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm not sure a lashing around a straight slash scarf would do much if the glue let go. A lot of people think 2 forms of joining stuff reinforce each other. It doesn't work that way as glue is rigid and lashing is a soft join. As to backing each other up it is debatable, but I think you are correct here. I often use screws to draw pieces together for gluing when a clamp won't work because it has no way of being applied. But the screws are not a back up or reinforcement, just a method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I've cut exactly four hooked/birds mouthed/pegged/ lashed scarfs, one of which I felt safe using. This is a mechanical scarf, and it relies on a lashing to hold it all together. I don't know how folks cut them in antiquity... That said, any mechanical scarf has a chance of staying together better than the straight slash scarf. Think of how easily their ends slip by one another when you're trying to glue them. Lashing ain't in that game. Put a key or a hook in there, though, and maybe. I'm waiting to rip my stringer material until I get a little more, so they can all be cut at once, and hopefully be the same. I'm waiting to notch my forms until I rip my stringers because I've played fit the stick in the notch before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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