Action Tiger Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Glad it was only serial sniffles. There are three snot makers here, so I understand. I'm anxious to see your boat, as I'm leaning towards one for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Jeff, I have a question. You know the two small pieces on the plans that help to hold up the coaming, I don't know what they are called and I cannot upload any photos or share any links at the moment. The forum won't let me. Anyway I remember reading somewhere that you hardly use these now? Do I need put them to help support my coaming?? My Coaming is made of laminated cedar about 1/4 inch thick, then it has timber blocks glued all around that are about 3/8 inch square and then the smaller outer ring laminated on that is about 3/8 inch wide. Will I need these two pieces of ply to help support it? I have used titebond 3 to and epoxy to glue all this and I plan on coating the whole thing in epoxy once finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Action Tiger, I plan to start skinning on the weekend or next week sometime, hopefully be finished in 2 or 3 weeks, fingers crossed Can't wait, took the canoe out on the weekend with the kids, made the mistake of making them a paddle. I don't know how many times the little one almost hit me in the head with it and decided that he liked to see how far he could get it in the water to try and spear fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodman Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 It couldn't hurt to use those extra supports.....With coaming rings like I make " the ones Jeff describes in his first book" it isn't necessary because they are super strong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I have found them unnecessary with the plywood coaming. My first laminated coaming needed the but it depends on how much flex you have. So I can,t say but you could add them latter if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 This idea intrigues me. How would you attach these frame/knees after skinning. If you were concerned about your coaming flexing a bit. Ahem... Mind you, measuring and fitting is not my concern. Are they lashed in? To what? How, if you already skinned it? Thanks, and sorry for the side track. Lisa, my kids are proof that canoes are wonderful places to raise children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 There is space to lash the. Glue or screwswould work though not my first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 My timber adjustable foot rest, copied the design out of a friends fiberglass kayak, the plywood just slips out and can be moved along to any of the slots. The coaming as of today, still lots and lots of hours of sanding to go. Woodman - Thanks for the pic helped me get my head around it Jeff - There is no flex at all in my coaming, but I have decided to put the supports in anyway. I had to make some new ones today as the the ones I had made, even though I cut them oversize were not tall enough to reach up to the coaming and there is no way I can bend it down to meet them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Action Tiger - My daughter who is 7 is already hassling me to make her a kayak It is good incentive for her to learn become a stronger swimmer as she knows once she can swim the length of the pool I will consider it. Even though they wear a life jacket I think she needs to be a bit bigger yet. My next project will be a 10' Dinghy Pram with bent ribs etc out of Robert Morris' book, Building Skin On Frame Boats. That way both the kids can go in it at the same time, may even attach a little electric motor to it to scoot around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodman Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Lisa, my adjustable foot pegs.... http://messing-about.com/forums/topic/9217-the-curlew/?p=82467 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I am a little concerned/confused about one thing. What are the stringers(?) under the heels? Your heels should rest on the skin. Also, you don't want ANYTHING around your feet could even possibly get entanvled on and trap you in your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Jeff - just took them out, what if I just run a piece of ply along the middle 3 stringers/keel where my feet go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 I never use and anything. The boats are designed to your feet to rest on the fabric. So if you add anything you cut down the space available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcone1381 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 I never new that the kayaks were designed for the heel to rest on the fabric. Although I always liked the way the raw fabric felt on my feet, I usually have taken a 12 inch x 6 inch piece of foam with me to rest my heels on to eliminate possible fabric wear. When I place this foam in the boat, I always think to myself that I should fabricate a piece that looks right and fits nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I always wear water shoes so I haven't done foam but I have thought about it. But I drag in Mud, dirt and all kinds of stuff and never seen any wear at all. And I DO NOT baby my boats! Except I don't usually beach the bow. Otherwise they get used pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodman Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 I put foam in my open cockpit fishing boat...Not the other kayaks, just water shoes on the fabric, I like to feel the hull move under my feet in choppy water.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I always have bare feet, hate wearing shoes at the best of times :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Me too. I own 2 pairs of shoes, and one is a pair of homemade huaraches. I don't know where the shiny ones are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisian Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Well I finally got my boat skinned and I have been painting it with Marine Varnish, not entirely happy with the finish and surprised at how plastic it feels. But oh well, as long as it floats I will be happy The more coats I put on the better it looks, the below pics were after one coat. I have also been painting a friends kayak in between painting mine, he wants bright jigsaw peices, where the grey is will be lime green and where the white is around the cockpit will be blue We are hoping it will stay together as it was someones experiment and to our knowledge not been in the water. It is made of some kind of foam and then fiberglassed, weighing only about 25 pounds. Fingers crossed it holds together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekapi Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Looking very nice, Lisa. I like your coaming too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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