Kudzu Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Not a great image but I think I finally have the new design I have been looking for. Multi-chined with Greenland styling. I call this a Greenland-ish boat. Don't ask me specs because all I can remember is it is 17' long. Stability is just every so slightly less than say Long Shot or Curlew. Resistance is right in there with the Short Shot. I have tried many designs and I keep coming back to the Long Shot and Short Shot hulls for inspiration. I just can't seem to improve on those. I am finally happy with this one and working out the details now. Hope to start drawing out the frames this week. I want to build a prototype for the fall trip to the Chesapeake Bay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Doug (WA) Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 So excited you had to say it again?! Looks mighty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Somehow I ended up with a double post and just deleted the second one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JReed Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 I like it. Got any more renderings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 No, just created that one really quickly. Started working on the frame, deciding how to build it. The more I look at it I may lengthen it and increas the rake on the ends slight. That will make it look more Greenland-ish. Headed to the Chesapeake Bay to teach a class in August and would really like to take this with me. Not sure if I can find time to build it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 You can call it Ishmael. Greenland-ish...based on a sea hunting boat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Here is a better drawing. I tweaked the styling a little bit. Mainly the stern didn't have enough rake. I was aiming at 17' length but looks are just..... maybe more important. So it got a little bit longer. Work on construction drawings now. Hoping to build in it in next week weeks and take it to the Chesapeake with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Tiger Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 That looks nice. Always err on the side of beauty. And kindness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JReed Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Like that stern better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Doug (WA) Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Does look very nice. I'd want it painted those colors also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Does look very nice. I'd want it painted those colors also. Thanks, I am considering these but really unsure on what color to use. Colors and names are the hardest part for me. This is the Sheriff's car colors and I love the way they look on the their new cars. I had something really wild planed but I am not going got have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Made a lot of progress on this one. Hoping to start to build one soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Doug (WA) Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Darn, I thought I was going to see a finished kayak! What's keeping ya?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JReed Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Looking good. Cant wait to see it go 3d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcone1381 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Jeff, Could you engineer all the frames to be free from the center post to allow allow better storage behind the seat? Brooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Jeff, Could you engineer all the frames to be free from the center post to allow allow better storage behind the seat? Brooks I was actually thinking about that last night. Without the post because of sitting on the back deck, I have had two frames fail. They were both made from Douglas Fir plywood. Baltic Birch is much better quality and would probably stand up just fine. But I have to design assuming they will be built with Douglas Fir ply. But for a smart, experienced builder it wouldn't be a problem to remove the brace and cut a strip that was just a friction fit between the keel and deck beam. That is how I repair a broken frame. Then the brace could be removed and replaced as needed. I may do that on my personal boat too. If you use float bags they will this area and I rarely put anything behind the seat anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapecodJohn Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Fire Fly is designed without brace, that made me nervous , I added a removable brace made from a piece scrap of 5/8 x 1 WRC on the frame behind the seat it is wedged from the center deck stringer to the keel. I am kind of awkward getting in and out and put a lot of weight on the coaming, the brace takes the weight. I ended up gluing it in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) There are some designs that don't have it. This is a alteration to the original design and as I find them, usually when someone orders plans, I add it if it hasn't been changed. I really think BB ply won't faill but It is such a pain to replace that frame I don't really want to find out. Edited July 23, 2014 by Kudzu major typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcone1381 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thanks for the reply, Jeff. I built a Ravenswood that has the center post, and plan to camp out of it in late August. I will remove it if I Need the space and use will your friction fit idea to keep the original strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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