Designer Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 The cockpit sole is a structural member and needs to be well glued down in place and sealed from water ingress. I use drywall screws to hold the ply down tight but remove them before the epoxy cures. You can make caulked down hatches over the tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Thanks Graham, that definitely settles that question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Niemann Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I am not sure why you added the last statement. It seems that would not figure into the 1st question. I will go out on a limb here. I epoxy everything. I only use screws where Graham calls for them specifically. I think they do not provide more strength and are potential for movement and eventually rot. On a deck for instance it seems like a great place for water to settle and eventually work its way into the screw area and cause rot. I am sure others out there will not agree with me but it is my opinion based on a lot of reading and building a few boats which are still around and functioning. dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 "On a powered boat with fuel tanks going "below decks". Hey Dale. I am installing only a 25 gal tank initially and, thinking there may come a time I'll want to use the boat some distance offshore and may want to add fuel capacity. I was thinking about using screws to fasten a section of the sole down over where a second tank would go to make it a little easier to add. And maybe even over both tanks in case of problems down the road, all depending on the replies I got. Graham scuttled those ideas. I'll either add the second tank now or expect to cut away part of the sole later if need be. I fully agree with the concept of gluing for the purpose of structural integrity. I also agree generally with the "no screws" idea. So far the boat has only one screw n it and that is sst 1/4 x 2" I think it is, that was used to fasten the transom to the keel, and is embedded in epoxy. And maybe one or two broken off drywall screws that proved virtually impossible to remove without doing more collateral damage than I wanted to deal with. They too are enveloped in epoxy. I'm just now starting on the interior and assume I will have to use screws to fasten some of the stuff. Thnx for your interest. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirilonde Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 ............................ You can make caulked down hatches over the tanks. I think this means that any area of the sole that is not glued to another component of the hull can become a removable section or hatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Thanks Dave. Guess I'll have to learn to custom make (water tite) hatch covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Working my way forward glassing the bilge. A slow go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Trying to come up with a good reason to paint the bilge over fiberglass and 2 or 3 coats of epoxy which will never see the light of day.......?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Ludwig Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 No need to paint over the epoxy. If you leave it clear, you can see any potential rot problems before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Niemann Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I totally agree with Chick and for the same reasons. dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Thanks Chick and Dale. That's the answer I was hoping for. Don't much mind the painting but the prepping for painting the bilge ain't much fun and very time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Jerry Hall added 9 new photos. 1 hr · . A few pictures to show what I've been doing for the last couple of months with a 3-4 wks to go on this phase. This is the phase that when you build your boat you'll want to hire a grunt to do this part.....a small grunt that can work at floor level while standing on his(her?) feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhill Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I feel your pain. I am also building the Ocracoke 20 and I am very close to finishing this phase of the boat. I've decided to put seats in the back of the boat instead of having the well. I cut that panel out today and just have that section left to glass. It will be much easier getting to it now that I have removed the panel. Give me a couple of days and I will post some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keen2buildagain Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hi Fishman, I am building an OB-20 and was wondering what additive did you use for your fillets? Congratulations on your build so far, she looks great. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hey Trev. I am using the mix that Graham sells which I understand is his own proprietary recipe. Looking forward to the pictures Bhill. I haven't yet decided exactly how I'm going to use the space aft of #8, some type of storage, maybe an ice box. One of my original concerns was the strength of the transom and what convinced me that it was probably more than adequate was the (sort of) honeycomb effect provided by the partitions Graham designed into that area. By the way, in the picture middle row far right sits a container with a brush standing in it. For anyone out there who uses diet supplements, ibuprofen by the handful like I do, etc, those pill bottles made of a rather heavy duty white plastic (PVC?) make wonderful mixing containers. I cut the top (neck) off using the band saw, de-burr them and use 'em over and over. Tough as hell and have a smooth, relatively flat bottom without the sharp corners found at the bottom of most plastic cups. Round over the corners of the mixing stick and the combination works great. All sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhill Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Below are before and after pictures of cutting out frame #8. I will add seats in the back that will tie into the transom giving it strength. Had a guy measure today for a custom-made gas tank and hope to hear back from him in a few days. I will post pictures as things progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Nice work Bhill! Wish I could keep mine looking so neat. I like the way you did the cockpit framing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveVa Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Jerry, That 3rd pic with you looking at the camera says it all....What have I gotten myself into. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveVa Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Newbie, Start a new post of your build and please keep the progress pics coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman38 Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Steve, granted there's a little fatigue in that look, but it may be mostly concern for getting the camera time delay to operate properly......it was my photographer's day off....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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