I could probably wait until you are ready to sell kits, but I was wondering what is in kits. I built a Yost kayak already, so I am familiar with the process, but if I do a second one I would prefer to use CNC routed frames. Will you be offering a plywood only kit? (so, frames and stations and build instructions)
Whats included in kits?
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 02:42 PM
I finally have the answer to this question. I have finally got the the kits defined as to exactly what they will include. Just waiting on the shipping scales and packing materials.
I will post some stuff from the store so I can answer your question. Yes, I will offer a frames only kit. It will come with all the plywood pieces including a coaming. If you prefer to make a sewn on coaming I can delete that from the kit. I am not a fan of the plywood coaming honestly, but it works.
One thing I want to point out. The frames are not CNC cut. I actually make a set by hand and then use them as patterns to make the kits from. While I take a lot of time on the patterns they will not be as perfect as a CNC cut would. For example, the straight edges may be not be perfectly straight. There may be a slight unevenness in the cut. Where the inside edge and the corner radius start, some of those do not transition perfectly . There are no glaring errors, but there are some slight irregularities there. As you probably know, it's hard to make them as good as a CNC could. I can post some better photos if you want to see what I mean.
One thing I do is I round over all the edges on the frames instead of leaving them square. I think this makes a much better looking frame and no sharp edged means it's easier to get dry bags of float bags in and out too. Less to hang on and less chance of splinters. The only thing the frames need is a light sanding. Especially the insides of the frames where the sinew wraps around.
CURLEW FRAMES ONLY KIT * $345.00 (Price may change slightly)
This is our basic frame kit. It includes the precut frames, the plywood coaming, floorboards, and artificial sinew for lashing and our 80+ page instruction manual on CD.
THIS KIT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE STRINGERS! Sizes are included in the manual.
I will also have kits with Backband, footpegs, seat and the skin at a little bit of discount. The big savings is in shipping them all together. I i will have these items available individually also.
I will post some stuff from the store so I can answer your question. Yes, I will offer a frames only kit. It will come with all the plywood pieces including a coaming. If you prefer to make a sewn on coaming I can delete that from the kit. I am not a fan of the plywood coaming honestly, but it works.
One thing I want to point out. The frames are not CNC cut. I actually make a set by hand and then use them as patterns to make the kits from. While I take a lot of time on the patterns they will not be as perfect as a CNC cut would. For example, the straight edges may be not be perfectly straight. There may be a slight unevenness in the cut. Where the inside edge and the corner radius start, some of those do not transition perfectly . There are no glaring errors, but there are some slight irregularities there. As you probably know, it's hard to make them as good as a CNC could. I can post some better photos if you want to see what I mean.
One thing I do is I round over all the edges on the frames instead of leaving them square. I think this makes a much better looking frame and no sharp edged means it's easier to get dry bags of float bags in and out too. Less to hang on and less chance of splinters. The only thing the frames need is a light sanding. Especially the insides of the frames where the sinew wraps around.
CURLEW FRAMES ONLY KIT * $345.00 (Price may change slightly)
This is our basic frame kit. It includes the precut frames, the plywood coaming, floorboards, and artificial sinew for lashing and our 80+ page instruction manual on CD.
THIS KIT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE STRINGERS! Sizes are included in the manual.
I will also have kits with Backband, footpegs, seat and the skin at a little bit of discount. The big savings is in shipping them all together. I i will have these items available individually also.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:03 AM
Hi Jeff,
What comes with the plans set? does the CD come with the plans?
thanks
Dave
What comes with the plans set? does the CD come with the plans?
thanks
Dave
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 05:52 PM
The plans have full sized patterns for all the parts. Cut them out and glue them on the plywood. Then cut to the line.
CD contains the assembly manual and some misc. other things. Like the lashing video in a higher resolution. Mainly it is the manual. Since I don't have to print paper copies it helps keep the costs down.
CD contains the assembly manual and some misc. other things. Like the lashing video in a higher resolution. Mainly it is the manual. Since I don't have to print paper copies it helps keep the costs down.
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 03:33 AM
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the quick reply. now I just have to figure out which one for my girlfriend.
Dave
Thanks for the quick reply. now I just have to figure out which one for my girlfriend.
Dave
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 05:25 AM
Tell me what you looking for, her abilities, etc. and I will help you narrow it down.
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 10:05 AM
Hey Jeff,
I had ordered her the Ravenswood. she has no experience, but a quick learner.
Dave
I had ordered her the Ravenswood. she has no experience, but a quick learner.
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 03:41 PM
She will like that boat. Just keep the seat low and she will adapt very quickly.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:39 AM
Hey Jeff,
I have a jell pad that I use, keeps you very low with cushion for the butt.
Dave
I have a jell pad that I use, keeps you very low with cushion for the butt.
Dave
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 06:38 PM
I just "discovered" your site and designs today. Spent an enjoyable afternoon reading the articles and watching the videos. Thanks!
I really like the Ravenswood design and, after seeing your comments in this thread, have decided to order the plans.
One question I have is this: what plywood is used in the construction? !/4," 3/8," 1/2," or?
Thank you.
Bob W
I really like the Ravenswood design and, after seeing your comments in this thread, have decided to order the plans.
One question I have is this: what plywood is used in the construction? !/4," 3/8," 1/2," or?
Thank you.
Bob W
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 05:49 AM
Thank you for the kind words.
I use 1/2 marine grade plywood on the frames. Marine ply is not always easy to find but I do recommend searching it out. It will run $50 or more a sheet but the total cost of the boat is so cheap I can't recommend cutting corners.
Jeff
I use 1/2 marine grade plywood on the frames. Marine ply is not always easy to find but I do recommend searching it out. It will run $50 or more a sheet but the total cost of the boat is so cheap I can't recommend cutting corners.
Jeff
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 05:53 PM
Thanks for that information. Finding marine ply isn't too difficult for me.
Next step... ordering the plans!
Bob W
Next step... ordering the plans!
Bob W
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 07:26 PM
Just ordered plans for the Ravenswood.
I won't have the space or opportunity to build it until next spring but I'm considering the plans as sort of an early Christmas present to myself.
Thanks.
Bob W
I won't have the space or opportunity to build it until next spring but I'm considering the plans as sort of an early Christmas present to myself.
Thanks.
Bob W
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 07:27 AM
Just checking email and saw you order. I also see that you got overcharged. Shipping is free so I will fix that and refund what it charged you. Should get that printed out today and in the mail in tomorrow.
Jeff
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 06:09 PM
Thanks.
Just checked my email to find notices from Google: correcting the overcharge and that the order shipped.
So, looks like everything is right where it should be. All I need to do now is wait for the plans to show up. :grin:
Bob W
Just checked my email to find notices from Google: correcting the overcharge and that the order shipped.
So, looks like everything is right where it should be. All I need to do now is wait for the plans to show up. :grin:
Bob W
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 07:48 AM
Thats why I like Google!
Plans go to the PO shortly.
Plans go to the PO shortly.
