Greg Luckett Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 A couple more. I am debating on using black walnut and white oak to make the dagger board and the rudder, but might use sassafras instead of the white oak. Any opinions or suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I hate one part of this forum. If I write something in this text box, then try adding an attachment that is too big, it stops the post and deletes all the written text too. Here are the smaller pics of the modified mast support web, without the explaination that I wrote before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Looking good Greg!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Thanks Garry! It sure is nice having weather warm enough to make the resin and hardner thin enough to apply as it should be, and it cures so nice and FAST! I may need to switch to the slower hardner, as the pots are getting very warm towards the end of the application, which is about 10 to 15 minutes per batch. No smokers yet and I do like the speed of the hardning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy C. Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Greg, Is black walnut O.K. to use for exterior? My son had a BIG one in his backyard cut down and I had it cut up to use for projects and whatever. That would be nice if I could use it on my CS17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Randy C., I think it would be ok. It has excellent stability and gluing ability, and good rot resistance. This is from a Wood Magazine guide that I saved several years ago, which does not cover Sassafras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy C. Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Greg, Thanks. That's good to know. I know this is a long shot, but how about making a mast out of it, is it too heavy, not strong enough?? That would be way too easy if I only had to go downstairs and pick out my wood!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Walnut is very heavy wood, about like white oak I think. I would not use it for a mast or spar given a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Burritt Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Greg- White oak and epoxy don't get along. Bond won't hold. We just had a guy in class want to use oak for the gunwales on a spindrift 10. Graham vehemently vetoed it, even though the wood had been bought and cut. We used walnut alternated w/ fir on one of the Opti's we built. Looked good. Seemed to bond OK. Another good combination is to use mahogany as the dark wood. Also bonds well. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hmmm? I have been using white oak glued with epoxy for several years now. Two years ago I repaired the transom of an old Oday 10 using white oak. It is still in fine shape. Currently on my spindrift 12, I have some white oak stringers (I like the strength better than the sassafras) and also strips that have been glued onto the gunwhales. It seems to glue up just fine. There are some variences in white oak species according to the July/Aug 2008 Wooden Boat, pg 5., so maybe that accounts for the reputation of not gluing well with epoxy? I have been using West Systems 105 Resin and hardners, and thickners. I honestly cannot see any difference in the way the white oak glues up. I have also managed to glue up teak with it, but never for structural details, just trim that had cracked. For boat building I tend to use yellow pine, sassafras, white oak, and mahogany. I prefer the sassafras, 2nd the white oak. The white oak I have been using comes from the lower Michigan pennisula. It is very pretty, hard, durable wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy C. Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Greg, See, I knew it wouldn't be that easy. Actually, I've been looking at Douglas fir for the mast. A couple lumber yards carry it in 2x's up to 24'. I have only looked at one lumber yard so far, the wood was pretty knotty, but should be able to get enough strips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I would and will use Douglas Fir for my spars, when I can find some. This reminds me that I need to go pester the yard guys again. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Day Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Greg, It's good to see another Spindrift go together. You're looking good. Are you going to get it finished in time to get it wet this summer? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Thank you, Steve. All compliments are very much appreciated! ;D I had planned to finish it by the end of May and as you can see, it is about 80% done now. I do not trust my crystal ball anymore, but it would certainly be nice to splash before the season is over. Sam and Ben plan to attend sailing school the end of this month and we hope they will be sailing the Oday 10 and the Spindrift 12 before the season ends. We are planning to take the Oday and the canoe for a weekend RV camping trip soon, as well. Darn it but this summer is passing fast. I really need to move south and found that I like the Sikeston, MO, area. It is not too far from family in any direction, but it does sit on top of that New Madrid fault system. If it were not for the distance from aging parents and my grand children and children, we would head off to NC and pester Graham and Carla for a while.... ;D. I am working on building the CB trunk and locating it today, stopped by the PC to check email and get off my feet for a while. Back to it now. Bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Installed the beam for the transom seat and the beam for the C/B trunk. The trunk pieces are fabricated and are in the epoxy and assemble stage. I hope to get it mounted up in the next couple of days, then the boat can be rolled over to get busy shaping out the hull and fiberglassing it up. It will need the keel installed at that point too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Since it was getting close to the time for cutting out the C/B trunk slot, we rolled the boat over for the first time to finish the hull seams. There are still wires in the keel area that need removed too. Now for the finishing and the fabrication of a keel, then another roll over to position and mark the C/B trunk for cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The hull is now shaped at the seams and ready for taping of the seams. There is some fairing to be done too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy C. Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Greg, Looks good. I'm bettin' you'll be sailing before me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Randy C., I cannot take that bet. I do not know where you are in your build...LOL. Thanks though, just the same. I finished the taping just as it got dark yesterday, cutting out the few air pockets that were created this morning. I will redo those later today. I have been fabricating the keel this morning and am nearly finished shaping it. Now to figure out how to attach it. Maybe I can get one of the boys to sit under the cradle and do the drilling and screwing? I am too old and fat to want to crawl under there. Another alternative is to sit the boat on its transom, then I can get to both sides easily. Actually, I like that idea best. Once the keel is on, the CB trunk can be positioned and cut out the hull. I ordered some carbon from Duckworks and will wait to get that before finishing the CB trunk. I am going to coat the bottom with the carbon epoxy mix too, but not cloth the bottom. Opinions/advice folks? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Luckett Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Ok, here are the pics of the keel installed. It still needs a bit of shaping. Ben and I decided to take a break, clean up, capture Sam, and head to the club and pool for a while. We will finish getting the hull ready for painting later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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