capt jake Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 OK, My boat had never seen water, and only a little sunshine! It is filthy and in need of a major bath. I see no alternatives but to put in the cockpit drain to relieve the water from bathing, and or any water in the cockpit. Soo...lf I install it; can I do so with 3-M 4200 or 5200; instead of epoxy? I am looking for a long term solution here; not a quick fix (though that would be optimum). I am not really excited about drilling this hole, but I feel it must be done (correct me if I am wrong, but I feel at this point every Weekender should have it!). Thoughts, feelings, or suggestions; or am I all 'dry' behiind the ears???? :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Pyeatt Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 I don't see how you can avoid it if you want to keep it dry. I'm for it completely. 5200 the baby into the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Sylvester Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 That's what I did. Bought a cheap white nylon through-hull fitting at West Marine drilled the hole through the hull roughly in the forward starboard corner of the cockpit floor. Gooped it up good with 5200 and trimmed off the excess through-hull underneath. That sucker ain't goin' nowhere. Bought some el-cheapo corks at the craft store to plug it while underway. Just be sure to not kick the cork out while on the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ruedel Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Ditto here - nylon thru-hull, sealed good, and trimmed off about 1 inch below the hull. I'm using the rubber expansion plugs with the release, and keep a couple of spares handy. I leave the plug out when trailering for those on the highway rains. Just remember to have the plug in when you launch. The good news is that with the Stevenson design, even with the plug out, the water only gets a couple of inches deep in the cockpit - just to the water line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt jake Posted February 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 So you guys are installing it through the hull only? Not through the keel as the planlet shows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Pyeatt Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Both ways will work for you. Which ever you do, saturate the cut hole with epoxy as much as possible to help keep water out of the edge cut plywood. Then 5200 the drain inplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ruedel Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Mine is thru-hull only. It is located on the port side, 2" equidistant from the cockpit bulkhead and the seat front, so it is pretty out of the way of anyone's feet, and it is a 1" nylon thru-hull from West Marine. No problems to date. Drains rainwater and wash water out nicely, and we have spent 6 nights on the boat last season, plus day sails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Teetsel Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 How about a small automatic electric bilge pump mounted in the companionway box and pumped out the transom? Just drill a couple of holes into the box to let the water in and put a false floor a few inches above the hull bottom so you can still use the box. More complicated but if you ever swamped, a little 500 gph pump gets you dry pretty quickly. I got a nice little Rule on sale at West for about $25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hagan Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 So you guys are installing it through the hull only? Not through the keel as the planlet shows? On the trailer, I found the water tends to collect up next to the bulkhead rather than at the stern as they show in the planlet. Might just be the way I have the boat on the trailer. I haven't done a drain yet ... I've been very careful about keeping the boat covered. And since I never get to actually USE THE BOAT anymore, a good cover is essential! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken connors Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 John T, ive been planning on doing what you suggested, a bilge pump in the companionway hatch. ive already drilled the holes thru my bulkhead and purchased the bilge pump and float switch(ill be mooring). my question is, why are you pumping out to the transom instead of to the outside of the hull? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Mellema Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 capt I used livewell plugs put into short lengths of 1/2" pvc pipe epoxied into a 1" hole. I located them in the rear of the cockpit as that is wherethe water ran to in my testing on the trailer. I found that in Sanndragon water pools in the rear even when in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gerkin Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I went with the pump in the companion way and then out through the side. I have had no water acumulate while in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hagan Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I sure hope the reason you don't use the boat anymore isn't because you are so busy maintaing the web site... I wish! I would at least enjoy updating the site! Its my job ... I hate my job, and if I didn't like it so much, I'd quit and get another just like it. As you can tell, I have a "love-hate" relationship with work ... I really do like it, but there are days ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt jake Posted February 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Thanks guys, I bought a thru-hull fitting today, I will install it this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ruedel Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I went with the pump in the companion way and then out through the side. I have had no water acumulate while in the garage. Did you use a thru-hull through the garage side, or just PVC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High C Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I bought an old fashioned bronze garboard drain plug that has a threaded plug. I have put off installing it, hate to drill that big hole :shock: , but will do so soon. I'll epoxy the exposed wood grain inside the hole, then set the thing in 5200. I like the solidity of it. There's no way for it to accidently come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt jake Posted February 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Since I have the open compartments in the cockpit, I was thinking putting them under the seat in the area where the compartments are supposed to be. Any problems with this idea? Wonderful. :roll: :roll: Imagestation has changed there set-up and I can't post in the old way. Any ideas of the 'new' way?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt jake Posted February 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Additionally; I am fresh out of epoxy, how about a good coat of an industial oil based urethane paint?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Pyeatt Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Since your boat is on the trailer, dump a quart of water into the cockpit and see where it accumulates. :idea: That is where you should place the drain. :shock: Provided that is how your boat will set when stored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Teetsel Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 John T' date=' ive been planning on doing what you suggested, a bilge pump in the companionway hatch. ive already drilled the holes thru my bulkhead and purchased the bilge pump and float switch(ill be mooring). my question is, why are you pumping out to the transom instead of to the outside of the hull?[/quote']Sorry for the delayed response Ken. Out the transom mostly to keep the sides tidy. Also, with the rail buried in water, there's a chance of water being forced back into the pump. That's no big deal, but the transom exit, positioned a couple of inches above the water line, just seemed like a better solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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