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  1. The top half of the west side of Vermont, near where I live, abuts Lake Champlain, thus "The West Coast". About 100 miles long and up to 12 miles wide, plenty of room for Princess. Plus canal access to NYC, Montreal, Erie Canal, etc., I won't live long enough to explore it all. Unfortunately all frozen over at the moment (and below zero at the moment, no thaw in sight). Did the ICW from Southport NC to Lake Champlain 2 years ago, nice way to spend a month (not on Princess). Mid-Coast of Maine and Mystic about 6 hours away, Chesapeake and NC sounds within a day's drive. Lots of possibilities. Joel
  2. I live on Vermont's west coast, and I have the P22 that Chick built. If you find youself in the area (awesome skiing at the moment) get in touch, and you can at least sit on one, indoors. Joel
  3. Thanks David, I may take you up on that sailing offer. Went to law school in Portland a lifetime ago and have sailed those waters some. Donna Urie (Safford) lives just down the road from me. I'm distantly related to her husband. I was up by their old place yesterday looking at a storage space. Small world.
  4. I think the tabernacle problems may stem from all the end and edge grain exposed on the upper end of the structure, combined with twisting, wracking forces imposed by the mast. I suspect that over the years, the end grain was not adequately sealed, water penetrated the end grain, and wracking forces caused some raising of some edge grain that ran close to the surface. Water got into the edge grain as well, weakend the wood, which wracked further, etc etc. Damage extends down the tabernacle to a few inches under the deck. Just guessing about the above, but bottom line is one side of the forward tabernacle is a mess, you can peel it apart with your hands. The aft one looks ok, but needs sealing and refinishing. It is possible that a prior owner replaced one side of the aft tabernacle, as the finish and wood appearance varies somewhat; if so, they did a pretty clean job of it. Obviously the tabernacles come under a fair amount of stress. Clear grained, high quality strong wood, well sealed and maintained, and good workmanship, and following Graham's plans closely, should work fine. I have plans for another boat of this size, with a tabernacle. It call for a stainless steel fabrication. I suppose that would be an option, if you have the skills, or don't mind paying (probably a lot) to have someone else build it.
  5. Are you referring to the tabernacle design now provded for the P22, or for the Mk2-3? Since I need to rebuild the tabernacle, and since Graham's new tabernacle design is apparently much better, I'd be interested in seeing how the new ones are designed, especially if its for the P22, and all other related componants are unchanged. I think I have two options; cut it out at deck and keelson and replace entirely, or cut halfway between deck and keelson, replace upper half, with plates or butts at the joint of sufficient strength to make it as strong as new. The latter would be easier, as the base appears to be below the top of a watertight compartment, which I would have to cut out to get at the base. Haven't fully evaluated this yet.
  6. From 22' she looks pretty good. The attached photo was taken last week. Have to get closer to see problems with the tabernacle and trim. Nothing I can't fix, hopefully. Can't wait to dance with her!
  7. The original Princess 22, "Princess", built by Chick Ludwig about 14 years ago, has a new home in northern Vermont. I purchased her last Friday in Baltimore, Md., and towed her home to Jeffersonville, Vt. on Saturday. She has a nice trailer, and towed beautifully behind an F150 rental truck.. I purchased plans for the Princess 22 about 10 years ago, and even drove to Chick's house, while on a trip to NC, and looked at Princess. But after studying the plans and considering my skills, work space, family and work obligations, and bank account, I decided it was too big a project for me to realistically take on. I got a deal on a professionally built Caledonia yawl, which we have enjoyed for 10 years, sailing mostly on Lake Champlain, but also Lake George, smaller lakes of northern Vermont, and the coast of Maine. Sailed on a CS20 in Maine at the Small Reach Regatta about 5 years ago, met Graham (with his EC22). A few years ago I built a SkiffAmerica 20 outboard (with small cabin), which we have also enjoyed cruising in. But the motorboat experience confirmed that I'd really rather be sailing, but on a boat with a cabin. So when Princess came on the market, needing a lot of work, but at a relatively modest price, I took the plunge, with my wonderful wife's blessing. Princess has a newer motor and trailer, and the sails look quite good. She needs a new main tabernacle, repair or replacement of the toe rails, grab rails, some seat hatches, the cabin hatchcover, and some of the hardware. Most every surface needs refinishing (most varnish was painted over). Structurally she appears solid. So she is not the beautiful young princess you see on the web page, but with a substantial makeover she can be the belle of the ball once again. I'm looking for nearby indoor storage, and hope to work on her some over the winter and spring, as time and conditons permit. Storage will not be heated, so I'll be doing well to be in the water by July. Still, I am very excited and honored to be able to have such a special boat. Chick did an excellent job building her, so she should have a productive middle age, despite having fallen on somewhat hard times. If I can figure out how to upload photos I'll post some, showing current condition. Wish I could make it to the messabout this weekend, but it's not possible this year. I helped bring a boat up the ICW to Vt. 2 years ago, we passed thru the Oriental, NC area, and would love to revisit, and especially to see the B&B fleet and owners, especially the CSmk3's. Joel Page Jeffersonville, Vt.
  8. Thanks Doug for you patience and response. I'll check the WCTS site to see if I can find some photos. I'm looking forward to seeing more photos in the weeks to come as the final details come together, and "the means of propulsion" are raised. Joel
  9. Still wish I'd been there to see the CS20, (and the SA20 as well!) Would love to see a profile photo of your boat, that's the one angle you can't get in the shop. And I could have picked your brain for thoughts on battary placement, now that the cooler/step occupies that spot. And oar storage. And transom top/oar storage interface. And motor mount options/rudder blade clearance. And slot cover options. And hardware placement. And mizzen mast stepping for those with back issues. And whether that is a storage area I'm seeing in the CAD drawing at the foot of the berths. And on and on... (The burden of building a prototype, you've been great about sharing the building process, and patient dealing with the never-ending stream of questions!) Interesting about your SA20 experience. Mine has some handling quirks, like most boats, but pounding is not too noticable, except directly into a chop of about 12". Angle it a bit, or shift weight to engage a chine, and that pretty much disappears. And of course, I adjust my speed to conditions. Because pounding gets old real fast. Joel
  10. Doug and Dale, I'd love to see some photos of the boat at Cedar Key! Wish I could have been there to get the tour with Dale! Joel
  11. I made the handrails on the cabin top of oak, if that's what you were referring to. My earlier post pertained to the rub rails. All the half round trim is cherry. All wood was cut locally in northern Vermont, which was kind of nice. Joel
  12. Glued up in two laminations to accept all the curves. The inner lamination is ash, outer is oak. Joel
  13. I think a rubrail following the shear would both provide necessary protection, and enhance the shear. Half-round trimming the cabin top would complement the rubrail and also provide protection. My SkiffAmerica 20 has a somewhat similar profile, and the sweeping rubrail is both attractive and protective. It also adds considerable strength. I've attached a photo of my SA20 (or tried to, we'll see how this works), which gives some idea what I'm talking about. Joel
  14. Thanks Graham, I wasn't aware mast kits were available, or that the tabernacle was pre-assembled. I appreciate the lengths you are going to in order to make it possible for amature builders to construct boats where the hull is true and solid, and the rig properly aligned and functioning as designed. Greatly increases my confidence and willingness to take on a big project. Joel
  15. That is a great piece on building the centerboard. Is Alan going to be available to build CSMk3 boards? This is an important and rather tricky part to build well, to achieve optimal strength and durability and performance and no vibration/hum. I could do it, though dealing with pouring lead is not in my comfort zone. I wouldn't mind paying for a proven board made by someone else for a reasonable price, just as I expect to pay for excellent sails made by someone else. In that vein, are mast extrusions available thru B&B? I see many posts from builders who have difficulty locating the specified extrusions in their local area. The sails B&B provides are presumably optimized for the specified mast extrusions. It would be nice if masts could be purchased as another option with the kit. As long as we're paying for shipping a kit, what are a few more pounds...? Great work Doug, I hope to see photos of your boat at Cedar Key, wish I could be there! Joel
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