Art Mulder

I asked this in the pinned thread above, but had no answer. I'm guessing that no one has noticed the activity in the pinned thread? So let me try again: I'm interested in Tangerine... I think it might make a good summer project for me. (My shop is in the basement, which is too small for a boat project, and lacking in easy egress, so I'd need nicer weather so I could set up a strongback in the garage.) I'm trying to understand the size of the project I'd be undertaking: - how much did Stonefly weigh? I'm thinking that would at least give an idea as to the finished weight of Tangerine - I was looking at the sinew in the store... does a Canoe require more or less or the same amt of sinew as a kayak - Same question, but about the skin: Am I missing a note somewhere that mentions how much fabric you would need to order for these projects? - other than Stonefly, do you have any other photos of SOF canoes? - Can I, or should I, put a rub strip on the bow/stern for landing on shore? How does that affect the water-tightness when you screw something through the skin? I'd be taking this for some backcountry canoe tripping. We've done one such vacation, and are planning another, and expect to do more over the years. But still it would be once or twice a year with some other light day use. thanks for any pointers or suggestions. ...art

Your frames are light enough that I bet you could rest one on TOP of the front edge of your awning... Or if space was tough I bet it could stand vertically lashed to one of the awning poles? The canoe interest doesn't surprise me at all. I admit I have no idea on the relative market penetration, but I think I see far more canoes out there than Kayaks. As well, a family can buy ONE canoe and it can serve one, two, or even two adults + two kids. Can't do that with a Kayak. I would also bet that at a "general public" event you would get more interest in people buying a complete boat than in kits?? ...art

Interested in Tangerine... Might make a good summer project for me. (my shop is in the basement, so I'd need nicer weather so I could set up a strongback in the garage.) I'm trying to understand the size of the project I'd be undertaking, so can I ask a few questions? - how much did Stonefly weigh? I'm thinking that would at least give an idea as to the weight of Tangerine - I was looking at the sinew in the store... does a Canoe require more or less or the same amt of sinew as a kayak? - other than stonefly, do you have any other photos of SOF canoes? - Can you, or should you, put a rub strip on the bow/stern for landing on shore? I'd be taking this for some backcountry canoe tripping. We've done one such vacation, and are planning another, and expect to do more over the years. But still it would be once or twice a year with some other light day use. thanks for any pointers or suggestions. ...art ps: Am I missing a note somewhere that mentions how much fabric you would need ?

Great News, Jeff... Funny, but I remember seeing the word "tangerine" on your website a year or so ago under the "coming soon" listing. Looking forward to seeing this unfold!

So what makes a pirogue different from a canoe? I have to agree that #2 looks better. How about a top view of both of them? I'm not quite seeing how they differ in size or carrying capacity. And IMHO you'd need at least one center thwart for portaging. (At least, I'm thinking about tripping with a canoe)

Awesome paint job... but I have to say that the head-on shot where you can see the eagle on both sides of the prow looks a bit weird! I'm not sure what I'd think is coming at me if I saw that first...

Totally doable but as I mentioned, Stonefly has had so little interest that I am really hesitant to put a lot of effort into another canoe. Jeff, I was going to ask why you think there is no interest in canoes. But then I saw your second comment about Stonefly. I have no interest at all in Stonefly because it is a solo boat. I would be VERY interested in a canoe, but it needs to hold more than one person. I would think that the market for solo canoes would be a tiny fraction of that of regular canoes. I have a family. We went backcountry camping last summer with another family for the first time. We're planning to do it again this summer. 11 people fit in 4 canoes. Along with all our gear. (admittedly, 4 of the kids were under 10, and therefore small!) We couldn't do something like this in Kayaks. Jeff, I find the SOF method fascinating, and I'd love to build something. But I probably will not build a kayak until my wife and I are empty nesters. So that is over 10 years out. On the other hand, a ~17' canoe, where I can put two adults and 1-2 kids in it would hold a lot of interest.